Press The Arneson Estate views The Age of the Wolf as a fake Blackmoor Publication

Although I am merely a friend of, and not the Dave Arneson Estate. I am privy to a bit of what has transpired.

If you know anyone listed in the credits of the book, let them know to contact the Estate, as there are questions about whom is involved with decision making in regard to the book's release. In my own unprofessional view, it seems it is better to make friends now than to wait until you get a knock on the door.

Please refrain from making any harsh comments to anyone involved in the project, do tell them, we understand if they were not fully aware of any issues regarding licensing. As Dave Arneson's close family, the Estate, has a great deal of respect for people working in gaming as free lancers, Dave Arneson spent much of his life doing the same. They know what the life style is like and what a hussle finding projects is.

I talked to Malia briefly in messages this morning. She seemed hopeful there would be some kind of outreach by Ink Bat so this could be resolved.

I think it made her sad when I told her I was not aware of any effort on their part, since Chris Graves who is the Estate representative had not messaged me.

There is a lot of speculation about this event on the web. It's pretty simple. The Estate (Luke, Malia, and kids) was not asking for money, they were asking for proofs. They wanted to make sure of what was contained within the work before publication.

Chris Graves got to know the Arneson family through the process of making Secrets of Blackmoor. I am pretty sure Chris is known as Uncle Chris by Malia's younger daughters. We gave them a bunch of LEGO sets at the last Arnecon and that is a dear price to pay for his title. Anyone who has shopped for LEGOs recently will attest to this. ;)

Because of a strong bond with Chris and also respect for his business experience, Chris has run several multi-million dollar enterprises in his life, the Estate asked Chris if he would take care of the business side of dealing with what we call "People making requests of the Arneson Estate." Thus he has became the Bridge Troll (a reference to an early Blackmoor Adventure) who vets what is a real inquiry and worth consideration, or simply someone who needs to leave Malia alone - to put it bluntly.

Things such as Age of the Wolf come up every now and then, and Chris decides whether to squish the thing, or talk to the family to see if they want to approve it.

In the case of Age of the Wolf, there is a long email chain of discussion. There are also emails from the law firm. All of this was pointed at getting Ink Bat to negotiate with the Estate. (FYI, I am not the Estate, nor do I represent it. I am Griff aka Toxically Nostalgic Grognard.)

Ideally, the goal was to get another Blackmoor book out there even if Dave had not written it. Well, now it is out there in all the wrong ways.

If you read the statement by the family in the Arneson Estate press release, the tone is very open to being amicable. No one wants to get into protracted conflicts.

Ink Bat tried to offer assets and money to the Estate, the Estate is not interested in mining Dave Arneson's name and legacy for profit, thus those were rejected. Their only goal is to tend to the memory of Dave Arneson and promote his life's work.

Here it is again:

Now that Studio Ink Bat has both, published in a physical form, and what may be worse choice, released the PDF on the web, I expect things are going to get even more complicated, which is not what anyone in the family was aiming for. It has been a needless head ache to everyone involved for months now.

In my estimation, I think if Ink Bat contacted Chris and simply apologized, they do need to do some groveling at this point, the Estate might agree to let all of this blow over. I am dreaming if I think this will actually happen, but there may still be a chance for them to fix the situation and the window is closing.

I will keep posting actual facts that I am allowed to share. There is no need for drama here.

I asked Chris if I can post specific links to laws covering estate law and also tradename law, and some other related items. If I get those I will leave them here so you can see how cut and dry the situation seems to be.
 

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TiQuinn

Registered User
Sounds like a money grab trying to piggyback on someone’s name and conspicuously timed for the 50th anniversary of D&D to get any little extra oomph that they can. Arneson died 15 years ago. He had nothing to do with this book. They claim he “oversaw and approved” it. That means next to nothing.
 

Nylanfs

Hero
This is pure gold - Laughing so hard.

I saved the images, thanks so much.

They are so defensive it makes me wonder if they are also owners of the company.
There's also Mynex who was 1/3 of the last company, Code Monkey Publishing, to work directly with Dave and it was on a book called Age on the Wolf. But who knows how much of the original work remains in the intervening 15 years.

And to be clear, this isn't casting any shade on any of the developers, artists, or writers involved with the book. I'm guessing that Suleiman, told everyone involved that everything was hunky dory.

 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
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I asked Chris if I can post specific links to laws covering estate law and also tradename law, and some other related items. If I get those I will leave them here so you can see how cut and dry the situation seems to be.
An internet forum isn't really the place to present your legal argument. We're not a court of law. :)
 

Zeromaru X

Arkhosian scholar and coffee lover
People forget how long I've been around these forums.

Please note post #42 and then #46 in the below link.


This may make certain folks uncomfortable, but honestly, they deserve to be.

I have someone I consider a friend and several people I respect attached to this work by IB. I hope this does NOT come back to bite them badly.

I'm sorry to bother you, and I understand if you can't answer my query, but as someone who has been aware of the Age of the Wolf stuff since 2009, I'm curious: do you know how much of the book was finished back them?
 

Mynex

Explorer
My response to this situation is linked on page 2 of this thread, post #17.

As to specific amounts, I have not looked over this release, so I couldn't say.

W. Robert Reed III
Mynex
Code Monkey Publishing
 

Zeromaru X

Arkhosian scholar and coffee lover
Thanks for your answer. I've read rumors online saying that the book was finished back then, but it had to be shelved because some licensing issues. I guess it was just rumors, then.
 


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