The Batman (spoilers)

[Mezuka]

One of the interesting things this movie does is make the Christian Bale movies look very, very mainstream in comparison. I mean, they're clearly meant to be mainstream entertainment, and I guess this one is, too?, but the very specific mood/tone/vibe of this one makes those previous movies seem more pedestrian. I don't mean that as a knock, so maybe "pedestrian" isn't the word.

It's a stylistic transition.

Burton's Batman were over the top and shot completely in kitch studio sets.

Nolan's movies were shot on actual locations. They certainly felt more real when I saw them but they have unrealistic blockbuster moments with big explosions and vehicle chases.

Reeves Batman is one step closer to a gritty reality. My theory is that Villeneuve's (Sicario) style has had a profound effect on how directors shoot their films. Which is good. A return to a Serpico and Taxi Driver aesthetic is long over due.

 

[Beleriphon]

also when did they change Marthas name from Kane to Arkham?

Batman: Earth-One. Alfred is much more like the Andy Serkis version as well.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Villeneuve

Oh, Villeneuve could make an absolutely amazing superhero movie. I think Batman could actually work well for him.

 

[payn]

Oh, Villeneuve could make an absolutely amazing superhero movie. I think Batman could actually work well for him.

I'm not so sure. I think he could do a very specific, and thus limited, range of supers well. Batman would certainly be on the list.

 

[Ryujin]

I'm not so sure. I think he could do a very specific, and thus limited, range of supers well. Batman would certainly be on the list.

I would think that something more along the lines of "Magnus: Robot Fighter" might be more up his alley.

 

[payn]

I would think that something more along the lines of "Magnus: Robot Fighter" might be more up his alley.

I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.

 

[Ryujin]

I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.

Think Will Smith's "I, Robot" in the year 4000, except the hero was actually raised by a robot instead of hating them. Heavy on Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. i used to read them in the '60s, when they were published by Gold Key Comics.

Magnus, Robot Fighter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mezuka]

I'm not so sure. I think he could do a very specific, and thus limited, range of supers well. Batman would certainly be on the list.

I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.

We might be surprised. The 'real lasers' in Dune scared the naughty word out of me. The Sardaukar fight scenes were good too.

 

[embee]

The 'real lasers' in Dune scared the naughty word out of me. The Sardaukar fight scenes were good too.

Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.

 

[Ryujin]

Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.

Something, something, uninhabitable for 1,000 years or something....

 

[payn]

Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.

You've been watching too many cinemasins videos.

 

[Bolares]

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.

And riskdamaging their only source to spice? Why, when he can use the emperor's private army to fight for him?

 

[Mannahnin]

It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?

 

[Mezuka]

It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?

Not sure about the movie. In the books, it creates a nuclear explosion. It's strictly forbidden by Emperor. In the rpg by Modiphius, we are very careful how we use our lasguns.

 

[Mallus]

It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?

Nope. Didn't explain it at all. I really respect Villeneuve's decision not to use even a single frame of the film to elucidate the explode-y reaction that occurs when a laser intersects a Holtzmann Effect shield.

It's almost like he was deliberately provoking all those Youtube/social media critics who operate on the assumption that all writers are incredibly stupid.

(or maybe the assumption is their own subscribers are stupid?)

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

You've been watching too many cinemasins videos.

Any amount is too much. And I say this as someone that used to enjoy their videos (I am deeply ashamed of this part of my past).

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

It's been confirmed that this movie is getting a sequel.

The Batman Sequel Announced With Robert Pattinson at CinemaCon 2022 - IGN

WB has officially announced a sequel to Matt Reeves' Batman, confirming that Robert Pattinson and crew will be back for another adventure.

www.ign.com

 

[Bolares]

Any amount is too much. And I say this as someone that used to enjoy their videos (I am deeply ashamed of this part of my past).

Have you watched Cinema Wins? A much more positive take.

 

[Mezuka]

I'd have to rewatch it again but thinking back on the shots of Bruce there is definitely a silent movie quality to the postures and makeup. Especially when he is at the computer with the black makeup around his eyes. Got a German expressionism vibe.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Have you watched Cinema Wins? A much more positive take.

Yeah, I have. But I've discovered that I don't really like movie "reviews" where the entirety of the "review" has to be either negative or positive. I prefer much more balanced/fair reviews now, like captainmidnight and similar channels.