The Batman (spoilers)

Mezuka

Hero
One of the interesting things this movie does is make the Christian Bale movies look very, very mainstream in comparison. I mean, they're clearly meant to be mainstream entertainment, and I guess this one is, too?, but the very specific mood/tone/vibe of this one makes those previous movies seem more pedestrian. I don't mean that as a knock, so maybe "pedestrian" isn't the word.
It's a stylistic transition.

Burton's Batman were over the top and shot completely in kitch studio sets.

Nolan's movies were shot on actual locations. They certainly felt more real when I saw them but they have unrealistic blockbuster moments with big explosions and vehicle chases.

Reeves Batman is one step closer to a gritty reality. My theory is that Villeneuve's (Sicario) style has had a profound effect on how directors shoot their films. Which is good. A return to a Serpico and Taxi Driver aesthetic is long over due.
 

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payn

Legend
I would think that something more along the lines of "Magnus: Robot Fighter" might be more up his alley.
I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.
 

Ryujin

Legend
I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.
Think Will Smith's "I, Robot" in the year 4000, except the hero was actually raised by a robot instead of hating them. Heavy on Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. i used to read them in the '60s, when they were published by Gold Key Comics.

 

Mezuka

Hero
I'm not so sure. I think he could do a very specific, and thus limited, range of supers well. Batman would certainly be on the list.

I dont know what that is, but if its dependent on establishing ambiance and slower pace then probably. A big part of what Villeneuve does so well is letting a scene breath and allowing pressure to build up. Not the typical experience associated with supers.

We might be surprised. The 'real lasers' in Dune scared the naughty word out of me. The Sardaukar fight scenes were good too.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
The 'real lasers' in Dune scared the naughty word out of me. The Sardaukar fight scenes were good too.
Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.
 

Ryujin

Legend
Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.
Something, something, uninhabitable for 1,000 years or something....
 

payn

Legend
Maybe I watch too many CinemaSins videos but the "real lasers" in Dune - in the Duncan Idaho fight scene especially - made me say "15,000 years in the future and they're still using knives and pointy sticks to fight instead of the lasers that they can use to cut through steel and concrete instantly."

Vladimir Putin: Ruthless despot willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons

Vladimir Harkonnen: Purportedly ruthless despot not willing to kill millions from afar with nuclear missiles and chemical weapons and who instead uses knives and pointy sticks.
You've been watching too many cinemasins videos.
 


Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?
 

Mezuka

Hero
It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?
Not sure about the movie. In the books, it creates a nuclear explosion. It's strictly forbidden by Emperor. In the rpg by Modiphius, we are very careful how we use our lasguns.
 

Mallus

Legend
It's been a while; did they mention in the movie the thing about las-guns hitting shields = explosion killing both parties?
Nope. Didn't explain it at all. I really respect Villeneuve's decision not to use even a single frame of the film to elucidate the explode-y reaction that occurs when a laser intersects a Holtzmann Effect shield.

It's almost like he was deliberately provoking all those Youtube/social media critics who operate on the assumption that all writers are incredibly stupid.

(or maybe the assumption is their own subscribers are stupid?)
 
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Mezuka

Hero
I'd have to rewatch it again but thinking back on the shots of Bruce there is definitely a silent movie quality to the postures and makeup. Especially when he is at the computer with the black makeup around his eyes. Got a German expressionism vibe.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Have you watched Cinema Wins? A much more positive take.
Yeah, I have. But I've discovered that I don't really like movie "reviews" where the entirety of the "review" has to be either negative or positive. I prefer much more balanced/fair reviews now, like captainmidnight and similar channels.
 

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