The Chaos Principle(IC thread open)

[Phoenix]

Go ahead. Some of my math might have gotten a bit off.

As a note for Wynter Wolf: Harald is immune to crits, and has DR 9 against non-silver weapons (DR from class abilities stacks with all other DR, as I read it; otherwise, it's just DR 4/- or 5/silver, whichever applies). The damage total should drop considerably.

Methinks it counts as 5/silver against non-silver weapons, and 4/- against all silver weapons (or creatures that attack as silver), it does't stack.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

Methinks it counts as 5/silver against non-silver weapons, and 4/- against all silver weapons (or creatures that attack as silver), it does't stack.

Well, the text of the SRD doesn't say, but I've seen that DR texts often say "This does not stack with any DR granted by spells or magical items, but does with DR granted by class features or feats."

 

[Mithreander]

Combining the DR's is not described well in the SRD, so ultimately is the DM's call. From what I have seen, it does not stack, but is treated seperately, though I like the idea of letting it stack better. If his character gets 5/- DR, then then his DR vs Silver becomes obsolete, and that's just uncool.

Anyway, Paxus, I'm generating that email as I type this. Please keep in mind that alot of the things that are in the email are what I have seen, and what I would remark on from a DM's point of view. Since I'm not the DM, please just look them over and see if there is anything that you disagree with, or agree with.

 

[Wynter Wolf]

Combining the DR's is not described well in the SRD, so ultimately is the DM's call. From what I have seen, it does not stack, but is treated seperately, though I like the idea of letting it stack better. If his character gets 5/- DR, then then his DR vs Silver becomes obsolete, and that's just uncool..

I like the stacking also

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

Mithreander has pointed out a number of math errors I made, which I have corrected. There is also one non-math error of considerable import; werebears must be lawful good, which prevents them from advancing as a barbarian. Now, I see three options. Option one: You waive the alignment requirement for werebears, and Harald remains NG. Option two: You waive the alignment requirement for barbarians, and Harald becomes LG. Option three: you stick to the rules, and I rewrite him as a Bbn1/Ftr10.

 

[Wynter Wolf]

Mithreander has pointed out a number of math errors I made, which I have corrected. There is also one non-math error of considerable import; werebears must be lawful good, which prevents them from advancing as a barbarian. Now, I see three options. Option one: You waive the alignment requirement for werebears, and Harald remains NG. Option two: You waive the alignment requirement for barbarians, and Harald becomes LG. Option three: you stick to the rules, and I rewrite him as a Bbn1/Ftr10.

I have thought about this very hard...

Mean DM says make him rewrite his character.

Good DM says tweak the rules this one time.

I am going to require you to be LG but you may stay a Barbarian

I hope i do not regret this.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I have thought about this very hard...

Mean DM says make him rewrite his character.

Good DM says tweak the rules this one time.

I am going to require you to be LG but you may stay a Barbarian

I hope i do not regret this.

If you think you might regret it, it's really not too much trouble for me to rewrite the character.

 

[Wynter Wolf]

If you think you might regret it, it's really not too much trouble for me to rewrite the character.

lets run thru this combat and see how it goes. the idea is a good one. Btw PBP updated the damage

 

[Zerth]

Combining the DR's is not described well in the SRD, so ultimately is the DM's call. From what I have seen, it does not stack, but is treated seperately, though I like the idea of letting it stack better. If his character gets 5/- DR, then then his DR vs Silver becomes obsolete, and that's just uncool.

As a rule of thumb, DR's coming from different sources do not stack. There are some barb PrCs, I think, that allow their DR to stack with the barb DR, but that's all I know. Even then we are talking about same kind of DR and those are special cases.

Different types of DR do not stack by the rules. It's just like handling SR's from different sources, they do not stack either. My character has two different SR's, as a Githzerai (26) and as a monk (31). I only get the higher one so my SR as a Githzerai is useless. A SR of 57 would be nice, but that'd be also clearly going out of line. The rules for DR and SR not stacking are there for a reason.

DR and SR are very powerful abilities and I'd be very careful in making any house rules allowing them to stack. But the DM makes these decisions not me.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I think the simplest and most rules-friendly solution is simply to drop 10 barbarian levels for fighter, conveniently removing the question of DR. That alright with you, Wynter Wolf?