"The Complete Guide To Drow" is Wonderfully Hideously Stupidly Bad! Buy it!

Forrester

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I picked up Natural 20's Complete Guide To Drow and I have to say that it is a brilliant descendant of that 2E splatbook we all know and love, "The Complete Book Of Elves". You know, the one with elven plate mail (that you could cast spells in), the Bladesinger, and elven artificial limbs.

Rereading CBoE gives me aneurysms and ulcers. Reading The Complete Guide To Drow made my head explode.

There's a feat that gives a drow +2 to init AND AC.

There's a feat that allows them to make a Reflex save in melee to "take half damage because they throw their arm up to deflect the blow".

There's a feat that gives them +4 to Spell Resistance. They may take this feat as many times as they like. The effects stack.

There's a feat that allows them . . .

You know, I don't think you're ready for this. Sit down. Take a couple of deep breaths. Okay. Here I go.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

There's a feat called "Retaliatory strike". It allows them a free attack at anyone that misses them by five or more.

At their best attack bonus.

Up to their dex bonus in retaliatory attacks per round.

Are you still there? Did your head explode? No? Let me try again.

There's a feat called "Retaliatory Strike" that allows them a free attack at anyone that misses them in melee by five or more. The strike back is at their best attack bonus. They get a number of strikes equal to their dex bonus per round.

Oh. My. God.

You know, I can't believe I just typed that. There's no WAY that could POSSIBLY be true. I apologize to the creators of the book. When I get home, I'll check the descript again, and I'm sure I'll find out that I've written that down incorrectly. Because there's no way -- just no WAY -- that I could have that correct.

Nope. Just not possible. A feat that makes the pre-errata Expert Tactician look about as munchkinny as Endurance? Nope. They couldn't. I'm sure it's just my brain tumor acting up again.

My tumor is also causing me to remember the feat "Dual Spell", which allows casters to cast two spells per round (with some restrictions but still . . . ), and a feat that gives them +2 to ALL ROLLS (but the prereq is that a drow god thinks they're special -- you think I'm kidding?). I really need more chemo.

Moving on, we have adamantine limbs. Enchanted adamantine limbs, with powers that cost pretty much the same as regular old magic items. Anyone want three new item slots? I figured you did.

I'll stop for now. The point is that I love this book. I'd allow PCs to use it just about as soon as I'd play duck-duck-goose with the Tarrasque, but as source material for super-duper-extra-twinked-out NPC drow, it's simply amazing. And as a parody of a real splatbook, it is truly second-to-none. And for seven bucks, you just can't go wrong!
 
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Without knowing what the prereqs are, I can't say how bad those feats are...if you can't take them until you're 20th level, and only then if you've been building up to them since first level, having to take a lot of wimpy feats along the way...they aren't so bad sounding. Except maybe RS.

OTOH, if you can take them at L1...
 

Prereqs? Yeah, right. I don't recall seeing any prepreqs, except for Spell Resistance -- the prereq is SR12+.

That's probably the most broken feat, since they allow it to stack. Take it four times as a drow and have SR equal to 26+ your level. Walk around pretending you're Drizzt The Golem, as spells bounce off of you. Wheee!

Retaliatory Strike might have required Combat Reflexes. (Oooooooooh.) I'll check when I get home.
 

If you don't like it, or feel it is unbalanced, write a review in the review section so that others will be forewarned. This thread will not be around forever unless you are good a creative bumping.
 

I think you should write a review as well. Your post was hysterical, histericall, hesteric, newvermind, really funny.

I think I will buy it though just to check them out.
 


I actually never saw the book before it went on sale; it was done out of house. But hey, Forrester's rant just got us another sale, so I guess I won't complain.

I'm, uh, not supposed to criticize fellow game designers though. It's bad form.
 


personality #1: Hey you can always choose not to use those rules, or better yet, you can house rule them!

personality #2: But isn't it the point of buying products that someone else has done that work for you?

personality #1: You pay for the creative thoughts of someone else.

personality #2: If i want creative thoughts i'll talk to myself, when i want to have a balanced product, i'll buy one.

personality #3: You are already doing it...

personality #2: What???

personality #1: Talking to yourself!

personality #2: Aw! Shut up! We where talking about an unbalanced product.

personality #3: And i was talking about an unbalanced person :-p

personality #1: But that's creative!

*general shouting match follows with the inclusion of an additional half dozen personalities*
 

RangerWickett said:
I actually never saw the book before it went on sale; it was done out of house. But hey, Forrester's rant just got us another sale, so I guess I won't complain.

I'm, uh, not supposed to criticize fellow game designers though. It's bad form.

Why do you sound so defensive, Ranger? :D

If it's that easy to get something published through Natural 20 -- that is, you don't actually have to write something good -- maybe it won't be so tough to get my Against The Elves module published after all. Let me know if you'd be interested :).
 

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