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My biggest problem has always been with how my PC's spend their time. IE: We did a lvl 8 one hit wonder campaign I had them robbing a bank and it was supposed to be really simple and take about ten minutes and then I was gonna send them to ravenloft. They spend two hours at least scouting, testing, and getting into trouble before they even robbed the bank.
 

*laugh* I have seen that many times. Heck, I have been party to that behavior as a player. If everyone was having fun, then don't worry about it too much.

If afterward everyone was complaining about not getting anything done, then you need to find a way to pick up the action. It will depend on your group. If you need to pick up the action, then pre-empt the "prep time" by narrating most of it out of the way at the adventure introduction.
 

I've had Players who focussed their characters on sneaking around an enemy barracks and trying to steal out of their footlockers at one point in the campaign, even though none of them had very good skills at it. Our Fighter, for some reason, liked to pretend that he was a Rogue at times. [shudder]

@CE
[sblock]I agree on the PrC, as well as the rest of Sil's stuff. He never got bumped, though. I'm still trying, though, and it'd help if you were there for support.[/sblock]
 
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I dont' see how there is a house rule needed. Just say, your knowledge check failed (or even better give him false "knowledge") Your the DM if he doesn't knwo it, he doesn't. Period.

Alright I don't see a PM system here, sicne the whole counsil uses AIM, message me your votes on the two nominations.

@Dyne
[sblock]Alright I'll look into it. Racanath is ready to kill something anyway.[/sblock]

@Y.O.Morales
I owuld gladly change the name to GMF if we were to have our own website that would be AWESOME! My question then is: What would we use it for? Would we still post here?
 

Buttercup said:
Second, you would get more responses to questions of this sort if you just posted them in general discussion. The majority of EN World members DM at least some of the time, and many are quite experienced. But many of those same people have little interest in or patience with joining a "guild" or "faction" which consists of page after page of white noise. Now, far be it from me to tell you what you can and can't do. Have your club if you like. I just thought it was worth pointing out that climbing into your backyard treehouse and hanging out a Members Only sign isn't the most effective way of getting the information you desire.

Ah ha! See, that's what I've been trying to say a couple of times. But as usual, Buttercup words it so much better than I do. It just seems to me that your not making full use of all that ENWorld has to offer with this one thread. You can get so many ideas from ENWorld as a whole, but it is very unlikely that the majority of posters will have much interest in a 'foundation'. And even then, if everyone is part of it, why not just call it ENWorld? :)

And on topic, I think players just like to take their time planning carefully and taking their time. Even at the expense of surprise and possibly causing more trouble in the process.

((Oh, and CE: There is a PM system, but its only open to Community Supporters))
 

Galeros said:
Okays, I need help wording something. How should I word a house rule that says that even if the PC rolls a high knowledge check on something, they still may not know everything about said subject.


I would add one piece of advice to all the good advice given already. Michael Straczynski (creator of Babylon 5) use to speak at many conventions and field questions from fans of the show. He would always get a question like “How fast does a Star Fury fly?” [For those who did not watch the show, a star fury was a space fighter].

Anyways, he always gave a “stock” answer to the question: “It flies at the speed of plot”.

The moral of the story, the Star Fury would get someplace on time if the plot required it, and it would get their late if the plot required it.

Now, by all means do not throttle the player. If he does well on roll, give him clues or point him in the right direction of getting to the answer faster. Let the player shine for taking the skill and using it, and if the player is smart and does research give him more hints or even a xp reward. But don’t give away the story.

So, when does a player learn everything about said subject: “At the speed of plot”.
 

Ankh-Morpork Guard said:
Ah ha! See, that's what I've been trying to say a couple of times. But as usual, Buttercup words it so much better than I do. It just seems to me that your not making full use of all that ENWorld has to offer with this one thread. You can get so many ideas from ENWorld as a whole, but it is very unlikely that the majority of posters will have much interest in a 'foundation'. And even then, if everyone is part of it, why not just call it ENWorld? :)

And on topic, I think players just like to take their time planning carefully and taking their time. Even at the expense of surprise and possibly causing more trouble in the process.

((Oh, and CE: There is a PM system, but its only open to Community Supporters))
I'm getting tired of hearing this. We're all very well aware that ENWorld has more to offer. I personally don't care. I didn't care when we were on the WotC boards that they had more to offer. We like our Foundation, and we're gonna keep it (we're stubborn. So what?). I don't mean to be testy, but people have been dancing on my nerves today.

To Y.O.: I think it'd be great to have our own website, although it might make getting new members a little harder. Definitely let me know if I can be of any help.
 

And I truly have no intention of abandoning other threads... :) whether I joined as a "member" or not, I'd have subsribed to this thread, anyway. I really enjoy everything ENW has to offer, and one of these days I'll be arrested for yoinking so much for my own use...it's bound to be criminal!
 

DungeonmasterCal said:
And I truly have no intention of abandoning other threads... :) whether I joined as a "member" or not, I'd have subsribed to this thread, anyway. I really enjoy everything ENW has to offer, and one of these days I'll be arrested for yoinking so much for my own use...it's bound to be criminal!
A good point. :)

I've yoinked so very many awesome ideas from all over these boards in the past couple of years. It seems to me that any 'foundation' of DMs should be able to get their hands on every single little yoinkable(new word there) idea this place has. IMO, limiting yourself to just one thread like this is shooting yourself in the foot.

Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you guys out. This is a community for a reason. :cool:
 

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