The e-publishing support group

While I am interested in this, the reality is that I have no time left to commit to anything.

We have a metric boat-load of products in the final development stages right now, a company website to update, books to write, articles to write and so on... Not to mention my family life AND maintaining a perfect GPA in school.

Just not enough time in a day anymore.
 

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Flyspeck23 said:
IMHO that depends...
If the person/would-be-publisher in question really is pushing forward (a regularly updated website, product previews etc.) I think it would be ok.

On the other hand, if you open this up too much, it might loose it's focus and dedication.

What about someone completely new to the business, but needing advice? Names of good webmasters? Hints? Etc? If you restrict it to those already "in the know", that would be restrictive to those needing assistance to become productive members.
 

MrFilthyIke said:
What about someone completely new to the business, but needing advice? Names of good webmasters? Hints? Etc? If you restrict it to those already "in the know", that would be restrictive to those needing assistance to become productive members.

That's what this message board is already here for.

My view, and I could be in the minority, is that the e-publishers support group would concentrate on product design, production, and maybe a little bit of "OK, here are two ideas; which is better?"; matters that they need a little privacy with, and a freedom to post links or documents.

I don't have a problem with being left out until I actually produce something; frankly it's a pretty low bar to reach.

Cheers
Nell.
 
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Nellisir said:
My view, and I could be in the minority, is that the e-publishers support group would concentrate on product design, production, and maybe a little bit of "OK, here are two ideas; which is better?"; matters that they need a little privacy with, and a freedom to post links or documents.
My sentiments exactly.

Everything of general interest, if there ever is, could be shared with the "public" (whatever that is).

Of course a first time publisher could run into exactly that kind of problem ("which idea is better?") too. We wouldn't want to leave those out, would we?
 

Flyspeck23 said:
As a professional typesetter and layout person for more than three years I'd be the one making comments on layout ;)

Since I have a sort of layout question that you might be able to help with, and we don't know when this e-publishing group is happening, and I don't know if I'll be included anytime soon...could I email you a link to a short (3page) pdf and see if you have any thoughts on making the front page look like I want it to? I've got the idea, and pieces, but it's not quite clicking.

Thanks
Nell.
 

Heck, if it is just a three-page preview, it wouldn't hurt too much to post it here for general review, honestly.

Another option is to use your layout design, but have Jabberwocky (or the equivalent) do the text for you so the text is just garbage random characters. That lets you get advice on layout in public without having to 'give away' any details on the product itself.
 

OK, Notes from the North is my forum for free, "whatever the heck I feel like" stuff. Most "issues" will be 3-5 pages, not including the license. I think I've got the legal d20 size fonts and stuff settled. Once I get the design settled, it'll should stay constant for the forseeable future (this isn't a one-time deal).

http://home.comcast.net/~darkwaterpress/Noteswk.pdf

I don't like the top title. I do like the vertical left-side arrangement, but if I make it any wider it takes over the page. I can't make the font any larger without making the column wider.

I'm not sure if I should move the title into the header zone (I may have done this a few weeks ago and not liked it), if I should move it into the footer, if I should ditch the top header altogether and just go with the left side arrangement, or if there's something else I'm missing (page numbers, for one).

Thanks,
Nell.
 

Looks good, couple of comments:
1.) Is it me or are the columns both not the same width?
2.) The lines are a bit thick for my tastes, they are very 'present' on the first page.
3.) The requires the use of D&D etc isn't, how shall we say... Very well placed ;-) I would say, add another page, make that the 'cover' and then make page 2 the first page customers will see...
4.) use of color, this will probably be printed out, so i would leave the color out of the D20 logo and the box on page 3. Saves the customers a lot of trouble when printing this on a printer with a color cardridge.
5.) border graphics on the lisence page are not really neccessary, chances are that this page will be tossed anyway by the user.
6.) Top Title, why don't you make it a two line header?
NOTES FROM THE NORTH:
THE SHADOWS OF WYL KIER
7.) If this will have more than one release with the same layout you might want to incorporate the title of the document in the page footer of each page. Users will probably print it out and have loose sheets laying around, they can get confused (does this page 2 belong to this issue or this one?).
8.) you might consider a bit more space under each of the subject lines.
 
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I think I'll do a "layout primer" just for the heck of it.

Some comments on the PDF, although we're rapidly approaching "off topic":
- I'm with Cergorach on most points (make that: all :) ).
- The column width on the first page is due to the third column, isn't it? I'd say this third column, as original as it seems, isn't that good an idea after all, or at least it's not that well done. Don't do it - put those information (together with copyright remarks) on the bottom of the page.
- Lines should be 0.5 points thick, unless there's a reason for the lines to be thicker (and I don't think that's the case here)
- I like the fact that there's some room before the first line of each paragraph. However, it's too much room. Half as much would suffice.
- On the same topic: don't leave that room for the first paragraph after a headline or after a list (for example: after the spell parameters). That doesn't look too good.
- On the same topic yet again: you don't use that room with the feats. Any particular reason?
- Personally, I don't like your headline font. It can't be read that well. But seeing that we're talking "role-playing game" here, this might not be what you're aiming for - some of the "big guys" do it your way too ;)
- There's a thing called "baseline grid". Call me old-fashioned, but I rather like it. That way the lines of your main text (in every column, on every page) will be on equal height.
- That's all for now - anything more would likely be a matter of personal taste. But do include a page number ;)

A new forum for similar questions would be useful I think. Although there's the problem that only people seeking help would visit it. ;)

HellHound said:
Another option is to use your layout design, but have Jabberwocky (or the equivalent) do the text for you so the text is just garbage random characters.
That's called "Blindtext" in german. Yes, the verbatim translation is "blind text". ;) Not sure what the actual word is, though.
 

Flyspeck23 said:
I think I'll do a "layout primer" just for the heck of it.
That'd be good.

Some comments on the PDF, although we're rapidly approaching "off topic":
We are?

- I'm with Cergorach on most points (make that: all :) ).
- The column width on the first page is due to the third column, isn't it? I'd say this third column, as original as it seems, isn't that good an idea after all, or at least it's not that well done. Don't do it - put those information (together with copyright remarks) on the bottom of the page.
Yes.
You mean put all the info in a block at the bottom of the page, instead of the side or top?

- I like the fact that there's some room before the first line of each paragraph. However, it's too much room. Half as much would suffice.
You mean the indents? I'll move them in.

- There's a thing called "baseline grid". Call me old-fashioned, but I rather like it. That way the lines of your main text (in every column, on every page) will be on equal height.
I'm not sure I follow, or if I do, that there's anything I can do about it. MS Word claims to place all text on a "baseline"; variations from that baseline create subscript or superscript. I can look and see if I can get the lines in two parallel columns to line up, but I'm not sure if I can.

- That's all for now - anything more would likely be a matter of personal taste. But do include a page number ;)
I'll do another version tonight, incorporating these comments. Thanks!
 

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