The Invasion of Mori OOC [3.5][planar][PAUSED]
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In progress draft of my Spellstitched Bone Cleric.
I need costs for the material components for Animate Dead and Circle of Death. I'll likely be trading out CoD though, as I'm not sure how often it'll be useful.
Also, as I'll have access to undead minions via both Animate Dead and Rebuke Undead how do you want to rule which minions I'll start with?
Couple more questions:
I notice that Ryfte lists Bloodeater as having been created with the benefits of several corpsecrafting feats. Is there any additional cost for these benefits or can I assume I have access to them as well?
Similarly Ryfte lists Bloodeater as having Spellstitched a full complement of spells up to 6th level at a cost of 23,000gp, but given he's not an arcane caster my math shows those stitchings should cost 66,500gp (as listed on my sheet). Is his sheet wrong or am I misunderstanding the cost of Spellstitching?
I need costs for the material components for Animate Dead and Circle of Death. I'll likely be trading out CoD though, as I'm not sure how often it'll be useful.
Also, as I'll have access to undead minions via both Animate Dead and Rebuke Undead how do you want to rule which minions I'll start with?
Couple more questions:
I notice that Ryfte lists Bloodeater as having been created with the benefits of several corpsecrafting feats. Is there any additional cost for these benefits or can I assume I have access to them as well?
Similarly Ryfte lists Bloodeater as having Spellstitched a full complement of spells up to 6th level at a cost of 23,000gp, but given he's not an arcane caster my math shows those stitchings should cost 66,500gp (as listed on my sheet). Is his sheet wrong or am I misunderstanding the cost of Spellstitching?
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Bloodweaver1
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Yes I do.
RL has been a bit crazy and down compture does help.
Should have something shortly.
-Blood
RL has been a bit crazy and down compture does help.
Should have something shortly.
-Blood
moritheil
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Pyrex said:
Hmm, just pick some straightforward undead, nothing too fancy (no dragons, medusas, etc.) Ideally you'll start with your full control of vanilla undead (i.e. as in right out of the book entries) augmented by your crafter feats.
A cursory glance at your sheet turned up nothing major. You actually get weapon finesse (claw) as a bonus feat, so your claw attack is at +13, not +11.
Let me look up the Animate Dead costs; I think it's gp per cast x 50 castings according to the item creation rules.
EDIT: Hmm, ok, this could be tricky.
srd said:
I read that as saying you need to determine a maximum HD of undead your SLA can affect, and multiply that by 25 gp x 50.
Ryfte's sheet has not been audited, as it was always listed as "under progress" and had not reached the approval stage. Please do not look at it as necessarily correct. I do not have edit rights to it, or I would put a warning in the title.
Bloodweaver1 said:
OK, I look forward to it!
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moritheil said:
I didn't actually take any crafter feats, so it'll be pretty easy. I'll probably go with a combination of skeletons for muscle with a smaller number of incorporeal undead skirmishers.
moritheil said:
I'd like to appeal that as at CL 13 (by my reading the CL of SpellStitched SLA's scale with creature HD) that comes out to 65,000gp just to cover the material component for the Animate Dead; which seems excessive.
I propose two modifications to that costing:
1) Only bill material component cost at minimum caster level. (reduces cost to 35000)
2) As the ability is only 2/day and not at will, further scale that by *(2/5) as 5/day is the usual equivalence for at-will per item crafting, reducing the cost to 14,000 gp, which is still a lot.
Odds are if I just bought 14kgp worth of black opal I wouldn't use them all before the game ends.
moritheil said:
I didn't mean I expected it was correct, but rather I was curious as to what you would bill me to have my creater have corpse-crafting feats.
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Oh, I think I figured out why Ryfte had the cost of Spellstitching so much cheaper than I did. And I think he's right.
Despite what the writeup on Crystalkeep says, I believe the cost is intended to be n*(Wis -10) instead of n*(Wis).
11000gp and 5500xp seems a little out-of-line to give an undead four daily uses of 2 1st level SLA's. 1000gp and 500xp seems more reasonable. It also resolves the oddity that a full set through 6th level spells only costs twice what a base set of 1st level spells would cost at n*(Wis).
Thoughts?
Despite what the writeup on Crystalkeep says, I believe the cost is intended to be n*(Wis -10) instead of n*(Wis).
11000gp and 5500xp seems a little out-of-line to give an undead four daily uses of 2 1st level SLA's. 1000gp and 500xp seems more reasonable. It also resolves the oddity that a full set through 6th level spells only costs twice what a base set of 1st level spells would cost at n*(Wis).
Thoughts?
moritheil
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I do see the argument that RAW there is no other cost listed for unusual material components.
I suppose we can say there isn't one. I would still like to reserve the right to reject anything really potentially crazy, like XP draining spells (wish, etc.)
PS: You listed "DR 5/Bludgeoning&Magic&Silver." Why magic and silver?
I suppose we can say there isn't one. I would still like to reserve the right to reject anything really potentially crazy, like XP draining spells (wish, etc.)
MM2 said:
PS: You listed "DR 5/Bludgeoning&Magic&Silver." Why magic and silver?
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Bloodweaver1
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How about a Gargoyle with the Ferial Template and four levels of fighter (or scout)?
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