The Lamentation of Lolth - OoC VI

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Kirinke: A charm is a charm. Both Ayden and Teleri have free will, they can think and act and feel, however, their thoughts, actions, and feelings will be cast in a favorable direction towards the one who charmed them. They will not kill themselves, i.e. impalement on a sword, but they can be convinced to "help" out. I think the example was, just delay this dragon for a few moments before you try to escape.

If you look close at Ayden's posts and his history, you will see why he was so willing to believe that an angel had came to him. For so many years, he struggled with accepting his calling was that of a priest, he finally gave in received his training and left the Lost Vale feeling that he was more of a musician than a true priest. Since meeting with the others, his opinion has changed of himself, he has lost some of the doubt, but there was always that little bit that cried out "If I am truly a priest, Finder will send me a sign."

When he was charmed, it was a simple thing for him to believe. What priest doesn't want to have a messanger of his god come to speak to him/her? Who doesn't want to know that they are worthy of such an honor? When she told him where the basilisk was and begged him to destroy the abomination, how could he not see that as a holy task?

The smile Ayden has is not that of someone who is insanely serene, but it is the smile of one who believes their years of service in the faith is about to be rewarded. For Teleri, she does not have to "drink the magic Kool-Aid" and look like someone who has lost her senses, as she hasn't. She is still Teleri, priestess of a goddess who works in moonlight and prophecies, warrioress who has a slightly muffled dwarven sword. She is herself, but she is inclined to agree with the angel among them.

Case in point, I am about to write Ayden's post, and in it he will argue with Drogo. His arguements will not be that they should abandon Andreas and Chasity, but that perhaps they should stay a few moments longer and allow the angel to fully explain herself. As Ayden does not want to offend the angel, but he also has a great deal of respect for Drogo, and as such will try to make peace between them.

I'm saying all this because when you write that all Teleri can do is smile like one who has lost her senses, it isn't 100% true. She has her senses, but they are tilted in favor of the one who just charmed her. Make sense?

Manz: I think your post was right on point, and I like that Drogo once again stepped up and laid it on the line.. Hope you don't mind Ayden's counter point to his arguements.

All: Sorry if I hijacked the thread, but wanted to shed some more light on my take on the whole Charm/Dominate thing.

 

[kirinke]

Hmm.. point taken. I'm thinking of ways to reflect on how it would change her... Having trouble with it tho.

It like okaa.... Teleri under normal circumstances would be going for the angel's throat or much more likely to run like hell away from it (she may be slightly crazy, but she's not stupid ) . Now, she's acting as though the critter is her newest, best friend. I'm having to switch tracks and durned if it's making me do a double take. LoL. Bear with me.
I did change the post though, to make it a bit more in character. It's much better now.


Oh, DarkMaster, I don't think any of us has mentioned StormArmour IC at the moment. Mainly because there hasn't been time. I don't think that even Broddy knows that StormArmour is intelligent really.

And the fact is, Teleri is sort of paranoid about letting people know about StormArmour being intelligent. I mean, StormArmour is not invulnerable and Teleri doesn't know how people will react to what amounts to a ghost possessing a sword.

I think that Teleri will let StormArmour decide when and where she's going to introduce herself, figuring that the blade will be the best one to judge who is trustworthy of the knowledge and who isn't. Unless Maj has other ideas. From the conversations Teleri and the sword have had, it's pretty clear that StormArmor wants those who know about her being sentient to be limited.

 

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It can really be as easy as you want it to be, as in essence you merely went from distrustful to trusting. You are a priest, you have heard a fellow priest speaking of talking to an angel, but at first, you were doubtful. When you basked upon the presence of the angel, you felt yourself become overwhelmed with their celestial glory (charm) and realized that while it was not an elvish angel, it was still a celestial figure.

However, you are still you. If she would have said, "Jump into the abyss and kill demons for me." You could have easily said, we simply aren't strong enough to do that." However, thus far, she has only asked that you guard a portal for her that can only go into the abyss. She has never mentioned us entering it, and that in your ears, sounds like a noble thing to do. Protect the portal so that others who are stronger than you can enter it.

You hear your friends speak with a doubting tongue to the angel. While they are your friends, they are also not "true" clerics. They do not pray to your god, or any god, for divine miracles, so they can't understand the glory it is to bask in the presence of one. You pity them for that fact, but want them to see things as you see them, so you look for the best way to make that happen.

Just a few thoughts for you to kick around...

Hope they helped some.

 

[kirinke]

Gotcha, I think I'm beginning to get a hang of it now. My post after yours is kinda reflective of it. I think that the charm might have temporarily knocked her metaphorically flat, so she acted a bit strange for a moment as the relevation manifested itself. Now, she's acting more like her old self, only regarding the angel in a more favorable light.

I mean, if you saw an angel or critter of a like nature, you'd be a bit um overwhelmed. Me, I'd be floored and could only smile foolishly/insanely for a coupla minutes at the very least. Considering how young Teleri is, such manifestations would be still very special, even to one who is used to divine miracles.

 

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I agree, hence why I was trying to stress that she could do more than just smile...

If you notice, Ayden has not yet been able to look at the angel, as he does not feel he is worty to do so. Everyone manifests their "quirks" in different ways....

 

[kirinke]

Heh.
I figure any angel would be used the effect they'd have on mortals anyway.

Now that the inital err shock has faded, she's going to be her normal, cheeky self. Only more polite about it. She doesn't want to get turned into something unpleasant you know.

Hmm. Once Ayden realizes that he has been tricked, one way or another, he's going to be devestated. Perhaps Teleri can help him through it? I mean, she knows she's worthy of being a priestess, simply because her goddess grants her spells and occasionally sends her visions of places that she needs to go to.

Teleri has no doubt about her calling, even her comments reflect that simple, powerful conviction. She practically breathes it, in both her liveliness, willingness to see things through and weird sense of humor. She may be able to help him realize that he doesn't need signs. The songs coming from his heart should be enough of a sign. At least, that's how she'd explain it to him. (High wisdom coming into play there. )

 

[Velmont]

Asking Sielwoodan to stay in one place? What Kayris is thinking? As if he would be able to stay in one place for more than a few days, and with humans over that. That's not Sielwoodan.

 

[Mimic]

I don't think that even Broddy knows that StormArmour is intelligent really.

Which is probably a good because then he would want to experiment with it, test it, rip it apart to see how it works.... all that kind of fun stuff.

Oh and be on the look out for an email Majin, giving Broddy a long term goal would be very cool.

 

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Once Majin says whether or not the charm spell is broken, I will post Ayden's combat moves.

 

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Andreas' short sword is also on Calenthang's hip amigo...

It is a +1, so maybe that will work...

If not, then dwarven steel it might be..