[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

I don't agree. They could have done a great job just limiting the story to the actual timeline with the rings. Plenty of room for lots of drama and good stories based around Annatar showing up and tricking the elves, figuring out how to forge the rings, forging the three in secret, revealing Sauron, and the subsequent invasion and destruction of Eregion.

Lots and lots of stories and drama to be had with just that bit of time and history. No need to bring in Gandalf or the Numenoreans and then screw with the timeline in a major way. It didn't need to happen.
They did actually consider thst direction and mapped that out duringdevelopment, but the resultant narrative was extremely complex and confusing with a jumping around timeline thst would have been bewildering in practice.

For dramatic purposes, a condensed timeline is just more practical. This is TV, not literature..
 

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That's still about 500 years of history, so guess there isn't much point in having anyone but elves and Sauron in the show, and it would feel very limited to one city.
And the dwarves of the time if they need metals for the forging. And the humans of the time if they have to travel through those lands. And... As I said, plenty of room for lots of stories and drama just based around the forging of the rings.

There was no need to bring in Isildur and Anarion and that particular storyline.
 

They did actually consider thst direction and mapped that out duringdevelopment, but the resultant narrative was extremely complex and confusing with a jumping around timeline thst would have been bewildering in practice.

For dramatic purposes, a condensed timeline is just more practical. This is TV, not literature..
Then condense Annatar arriving in 1200ish to the war in in the 1690s. It would not have been confusing at that point and they wouldn't have dragged Gandalf, Isildur and Anarion into things way outside of their range.
 

I like the show overall but I do wish the showrunners had chosen to do, say, two or three seasons for the 1600s–early 1700s period, followed by a single huge time jump and then two or three seasons for the end of the age. (Annatar's arrival could be condensed into the 1600s or dealt with flashback, or even just skipped—start with him as a supposedly known quantity in Eregion.)

But I don't want that just because it's canon. It just seems like a missed opportunity to do something interesting and unusual with narrative structure. The showrunners have mentioned The Wire as an inspiration on their approach to storytelling structure, especially in the way they think of each season as a unit—which puts the lie to the notion that they think you can only do challenging narrative things in literature and not in TV. Sticking to Tolkien's timeline would have been a The Wire move: bold, tricky to pull off, and potentially very rewarding both thematically (unforeseen consequences of present choices loooong down the line, contrast between elven lives and the lives of mortals, etc.) and narratively (the later Numenoreans' obsession with immortality could hit viewers pretty hard if they themselves had just "lost" everyone in the cast except elves and Sauron, for example).

I understand why they chose to compress and rearrange the timeline, why they thought it's the only right move. And it's not a bad move. But doing so yields a presumably much more conventional story structure. I would wager money that the coming seasons will be arranged around the lines of the poem, and this is why the show chose to have the canonically last-forged elven rings come first: S2: dwarven rings; S3: rings of men; S4: One Ring; S5: "In the Darkness Bind Them"/Last Alliance. That's a fine structure, I suppose. Just not an interesting one.
 
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Then condense Annatar arriving in 1200ish to the war in in the 1690s.
They are condensing it all together. The Podcaster Tolkien Professor has a good take on this that I agree with, of viewing changes through a Pro/Con paradigm: there are a lot of pros to bringing these major events together for a filmed story, and frankly not much in the way of cons as far as the show is concerned. The world building of having these events be slow and steady across two millenia is great for a book...but doesn't work for visual media.
 

I like the show overall but I do wish the showrunners had chosen to do, say, two or three seasons for the 1600s–early 1700s period, followed by a single huge time jump and then two or three seasons for the end of the age. (Annatar's arrival could be condensed into the 1600s or dealt with flashback, or even just skipped—start with him as a supposedly known quantity in Eregion.)

But I don't want that just because it's canon. It just seems like a missed opportunity to do something interesting and unusual with narrative structure. The showrunners have mentioned The Wire as an inspiration on their approach to storytelling structure, especially in the way they think of each season as a unit—which puts the lie to the notion that they think you can only do challenging narrative things in literature and not in TV. Sticking to Tolkien's timeline would have been a The Wire move: bold, tricky to pull off, and potentially very rewarding both thematically (unforeseen consequences of present choices loooong down the line, contrast between elven lives and the lives of mortals, etc.) and narrratively (the later Numenoreans' obsession with immortality could hit viewers pretty hard if they themselves had just "lost" everyone in the cast except elves and Sauron, for example).

I understand why they chose to compress and rearrange the timeline, why they thought it's the only right move. And it's not a bad move. But doing so yields a presumably much more conventional story structure. I would wager money that the coming seasons will be arranged around the lines of the poem, and this is why the show chose to have the canonically last-forged elven rings come first: S2: dwarven rings; S3: rings of men; S4: One Ring; S5: "In the Darkness Bind Them"/Last Alliance. That's a fine structure, I suppose. Just not an interesting one.
I really enjoy that chiastic structure, myself. I'm really curious to see what the show does with the unknown Ringbearers: we have Elrond, Galadriel, Gil-Galad, and Durin, but that leaves 15 largely unknown characters to introduce in some fashion (though I think we may have already met a fair number of the Nazgûl).
 

The world building of having these events be slow and steady across two millenia is great for a book...but doesn't work for visual media.
But................that's the point. There's no reason to have those major events together. Have one major event, the forging of the rings and all the drama and action around that happen. Then another series about the downfall of Numenor and the establishment of Gondor and Arnor and the battle to take the ring from Sauron.
 

I really enjoy that chiastic structure, myself. I'm really curious to see what the show does with the unknown Ringbearers: we have Elrond, Galadriel, Gil-Galad, and Durin, but that leaves 15 largely unknown characters to introduce in some fashion (though I think we may have already met a fair number of the Nazgûl).
I the nine were given to the kings and queens of mortal men. I could see the boy of the southrons being a leader to get one, and perhaps Miriel being tempted into accepting one to restore her sight.
 

But................that's the point. There's no reason to have those major events together. Have one major event, the forging of the rings and all the drama and action around that happen. Then another series about the downfall of Numenor and the establishment of Gondor and Arnor and the battle to take the ring from Sauron.
Aure there is...to get them on screen in q coherent fashion.
 

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