[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

[MarkB]

That's how they ended up working at the ultimate end. But they were made to enhance what the wearers desired. The dwarves wanted to mine and own things, so it made them better at achieving great wealth, and made the wearers greedy. The humans wanted power, so it gave it to them and then corrupted them into the Nazgul.

My headcanon for the One Ring and invisibility was that it basically required some advanced knowledge of Ring lore to specify its effect, and the last wielder to possess such knowledge was Isildur. He set it to "invisibility" mode, and no subsequent wearer knew how to switch it out of that mode.

 

[Ryujin]

In the books he cast produce flame(hobbit), lightning bolt(hobbit), knock(lotr), Light(lotr), fireball(lotr), counterspell(lotr), detect thoughts(lotr), and break enchantment(lotr). Perhaps more.

Hold Portal (LotR).

 

[Ryujin]

It seems to me that they melted down rather a lot of gold and silver, int hat dagger, for it to only make 3 rings.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

That's how they ended up working at the ultimate end. But they were made to enhance what the wearers desired. The dwarves wanted to mine and own things, so it made them better at achieving great wealth, and made the wearers greedy. The humans wanted power, so it gave it to them and then corrupted them into the Nazgul.

Wasn't the "turning into Nazgûl" the answer to human's desire of immortality? It's a pretty strong theme that humans really don't like the Gift of Illuvatar... (death).

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

It seems to me that they melted down rather a lot of gold and silver, int hat dagger, for it to only make 3 rings.

I guess most of the dagger was of a metal more suited to be a weapon than gold and silver, with just a few parts being actually gold and silver. That, and for the people who prefers out-of-universe explanations, the filmmakers weren't expert at forging themselves and favoured the graphical effect of the smelting of a huge amount of metal.

 

[MarkB]

It seems to me that they melted down rather a lot of gold and silver, int hat dagger, for it to only make 3 rings.

I guess most of the dagger was of a metal more suited to be a weapon than gold and silver, with just a few parts being actually gold and silver. That, and for the people who prefers out-of-universe explanations, the filmmakers weren't expert at forging themselves and favoured the graphical effect of the smelting of a huge amount of metal.

Or they didn't use it all, and the rest is in storage.

 

[Maxperson]

Just Sauron, I expect (but he will need mithril). Or Sauron+dwarves, Sauron+men. It's what makes sense from a "where we are at now" point of view. Trying to shoe-horn in some "but it says..." isn't going to lead anywhere. We know the writers aren't working that way.

Yeah.

The Silmarilion states quite explicitly that Gandalf (and Radagast) never went east. Saruman and the Blue wizards went east, but only Saruman came back. Does that mean the stranger can't be Gandalf?

It also says none of the Istari showed up this early, Isildur and Anarion weren't born yet, Galadriel wasn't warlike, the Balrog doesn't wake up yet, mithril is traded to the races of Middle Earth for more than a thousand years and not kept a secret, Sauron hid and wasn't killed, the 7 and 9 were forged first, and more. Gandalf going east is par for the course at this point.

 

[Ryujin]

I guess most of the dagger was of a metal more suited to be a weapon than gold and silver, with just a few parts being actually gold and silver. That, and for the people who prefers out-of-universe explanations, the filmmakers weren't expert at forging themselves and favoured the graphical effect of the smelting of a huge amount of metal.

I think that even a non smith would consider that if you melted down the whole thing and all of it wasn't suited to be used in the rings, then separating out the individual metals after the fact would be rather tough.

 

[Maxperson]

Wasn't the "turning into Nazgûl" the answer to human's desire of immortality? It's a pretty strong theme that humans really don't like the Gift of Illuvatar... (death).

I think that was the corruption of the rings, which they accepted from Sauron due to the promise of immortality. The rings tried to corrupt the dwarves, but failed to do more than exert a bit of influence and make them greedy.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

That was a really nice season finale.

For one thing, that's not how dams work, Celebrimbadingbadingbor.

Actually, in show canon, it seems that's how Elven dams seem to work. Or at least I presume the dam that opened with that little Sauron artefact and created Mordor's gloomy atmopshere was of Elven design.

One thing I'm really liking about this show is Bear McCreary score. More specifically, I can't stop listening to his themes, especially Galadriel, The Stranger, Numenor, Valinor, and Elendil & Isildur. They're really strong, I think, and distinctive. I love the Mediterranean/Middle-Eastern/North-African sound of the Numenor theme, and The Stranger reminds me of Bedrich Smetana's Vltava.

Bear McCreary is at it again. So far I think I liked all his work, at least the stuff I know. He was great for Battlestar Galactica, Human Target, The Cape, Caprica, Defiance, Da Vinci's Demons and now RoP. And I've heard he's great in the God of War games as well, and Black Sail also sounds pretty interesting, but I haven't played the game or seen the show respectively.