[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

[Paul Farquhar]

I'm still scratching my head at what they're doing with Galadriel at sea

They are using her as a viewpoint character to explain Numenor.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I imagine what would happen if Pinocchio was released by Disney today. Anger and outrage at the betrayal of the text! Where is Collodi's sarcasm? Why isn't the talking cricket smashed to his death and why has he been renamed?!

I'm still smarting over the non-death of the little mermaid!

Oh, and when is the release date for Disney's Hamlet?

 

[Tonguez]

I'm still smarting over the non-death of the little mermaid!

Oh, and when is the release date for Disney's Hamlet?

1994 with a remake in 2019

 

[Stalker0]

Remember, folks, it's two episodes in of an eight-episode season that is, itself, the first of eight seasons. We haven't seen the full version of these characters yet, especially since they've had so many characters and places to introduce.

True to the first part, but its a very expensive show. Expecting it to go a full 8 seasons is a very lofty expectation, that's a LONG time in the tv game.

 

[Maxperson]

Tolkien doesn't define "rules" for magic or explains how it works. That is why it's magic. So he never says "can't do objects". The only rule was that after the fall of Numenor Sauron could never again "take on fair form". But if it was as easy as changing clothes, Gandalf could have escaped from Orthanc by changing himself into an eagle.

He could have escaped.............if it wasn't for Gandalf being the only remaining Istari to remain obedient to the edict to restrict his power.

 

[Maxperson]

Actually, in the Lay of Beren and Lúthien, while Sauron rules over Tol-in-Gauroth where he has Beren and Finrod imprisoned, during the battle with Huan he shapechanges into a wolf and into a giant bat subsequently. Granted, those are not "objects", but still that's shapechanging nonetheless.

Yes. SAURON could shapechange. That was a power given to him. Luthien could change the shapes of others. That was a power given to her. The ability to take forms was a power given to all Maia and involved becoming spirit again and then reclothing yourself in a different form. Shapechanging was never an ability that we saw given to Gandalf.

 

[Maxperson]

He's in the cast.

Slavish adherence to the source material does not make for good TV.

Neither does complete destruction of the timeline. A get condensing some things a bit, but bringing Isildur, part of a family who left after the destruction of Numenor and born well into the next age, into the timeline now is just....................................bad.

 

[Maxperson]

I would imagine the Silmarillion rivals A Brief History of Time as the most unread book!

I've read both! And enjoyed them. A Brief History of Time only has about 9% of the sales that The Silmarillion has, though.

 

[Maxperson]

They are using her as a viewpoint character to explain Numenor.

They could have just explained it like it happened, with the Edain who helped during the War of Wrath and suffered because of Morgoth being granted Numenor. They have the rights to show that.

 

[Zaukrie]

I am not against new ideas per se as I have already stated. But when you translate a work from one medium to another, it would be well to do so faithfully first. Then you can start working with it.

Imagine a digital artist announcing that they're gonna colorize an old b/w photography of some famous person. And in doing so, they not only colorize the photo, but also erase moles, soften the skin, and alter the haircut of the person in the photo.
The end result might be stunning. It might be aesthetically pleasing. But you'd still wonder what the original photo would have looked like, colorized. [emoji2369]

I don't hate the new show — nor its fans. But I'm a tad bit disappointed and I feel it is a valid sentiment, both to have and to express. I refuse to be lumped in with trolls and racist that have raged against the show ever since the first character portraits were released. I gave the show the benefit of doubt and find it... lacking. That's all.

There is no intrinsic need to translate in any way. Why is this hard to understand? It's a different fictional story. Nothing more or less.