The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

wicked cool

Adventurer
the trailer for a superbowl was subpar. I will tune and watch but it didnt scream lord of the rings to me (other than the harbor scene). Its was a step below the trailer we got for Game of Thrones back then, Moon Knight trailer looks very exciting , House of the Dragon, Jack Ryan etc.

Was the monster at the end of the trailer a troll?
 

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Mezuka

Hero
It's unreasonable to expect blockbuster levels of budget (CGI, etc) for a streaming TV series.

Seems to me like we lost the art of judging things as per their own media segments. I recall a time when we had B-Movies at the theatre before the main event. No one in their right minds judged them with the same criteria as the main film. Death Race 2000 (1975) was feaking awesome, for a B-movie.

I'll judge it when I see it.
 



Parmandur

Book-Friend
At any rate, it's not the size if the budget, but what you do with it.

I'm cautiously optimistic, precisely because they are making this show out if a 12 and a half page Appendix: other than broad strokes, this will all be original, which is much better potential than the weird half and half muddle of the Hobbit trilogy.

And the Dwarf princess is the best thing ever, the haters gonna hate.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
These new images are very exciting! Princess Disa looks awesome. Self-proclaimed "Tolkien purists" might nitpick about the character not being in the books, or not having a beard (balderdash; Tolkien explicitly only says all male dwarves have beards - emphasis Tolkien's), but if I'm feeling uncharitable, I think many of them are just mad about the other thing. The increased diversity of the cast is very welcome. If you go back and watch the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies, they are very noticeably white.
I have to say, I love the design of the character, she looks great, and the diverse casting is thrilling, and I don't mind about the beards.

That being said...Tolkien's female Dwarves had beards and dressed like the male Dwarves. That's pretty clearly established: apparently male and female Dwarves are born with beards. Buy fir the show, it's no biggie as long as the design is good, which it is
 

Neither optimistic nor pessimistic at this point.

It needs an "inspired by Tolkien" label since there isn't really enough to tell detailed stories in this era that are actually Tolkien's writing ... so from a "canon" standpoint this is fan fiction.

But hey, if its good fan fiction, I'll watch it. I don't expect visual or thematic continuity with the Jackson films -- different creators, different story, different vision. It would be like expecting continuity with the best Hobbit adaptation (that would be the Bakshi one).
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
I was not in love with the trailer, but I didn't hate it either. but man, the racists sure hate it.....at least on Twitter.
 

payn

Legend
$100M for a 10-hour series as opposed to $200M for a 2 hour film. It sounds crazy numbers, but $10M per hour of footage vs $100M per hour of footage isn't comparable.
Good points, 100mill+ is still a heftier budget than many TV series get. I did think the trailer was a bit underwhelming and didnt look like the budget. Wheel of Time looked better (via trailer)to me.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Good points, 100mill+ is still a heftier budget than many TV series get. I did think the trailer was a bit underwhelming and didnt look like the budget. Wheel of Time looked better (via trailer)to me.
Substitute "all" for "most": this is the highest budget TV show of all time, by my understanding.
 



Parmandur

Book-Friend
Oh, wow, then ever more underwhelming. (I realize this is just a trailer and the show could be much better than first impression)
Imagine a trailer for a 90's Star Trek show that focused on the Matte paintings used for establishing shots on alien planets: ot impressive, but the shows actual budget was mostly in sets, props, and actors.

Look at the costume, set, and makeup design we have already seen: that's where the money is, along with the large cast of actors.

As a result, yeah, the CGI is not revolutionary, midrange Switch game I'd say. But that should serve the show.
 

wicked cool

Adventurer
agreed for the budget and todays technology i expected to be wowed. its a Superbowl commercial!!

arent all the disney marvel stuff well over 100 million a series. Moon Knight so far looks way more interesting and i know much more about this universe than his origins

GOT cost was 60 million per season

I know its early but this has the initial wheel of time look to it. Where is the grit/dirt. it feels like everyone dressed in costume/makeup room and stepped on the green screen and nobody is saying wheres the grime (even compared to the original movies in case some are saying different universe)
 


Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
agreed for the budget and todays technology i expected to be wowed. its a Superbowl commercial!!

arent all the disney marvel stuff well over 100 million a series. Moon Knight so far looks way more interesting and i know much more about this universe than his origins

GOT cost was 60 million per season

I know its early but this has the initial wheel of time look to it. Where is the grit/dirt. it feels like everyone dressed in costume/makeup room and stepped on the green screen and nobody is saying wheres the grime (even compared to the original movies in case some are saying different universe)
I feel like I watched a different teaser to you, but OK. 🤷
 

Yeah, I really don't get the complaints about the effects. The trailer was brief and we only saw small snippets, but what I saw looked movie quality effects-wise.
 

Didnt they drop 100 million+ on this series? I'm not sure the lowered expectations should be expected.

No, the starting bid for the rights to make the show was $250 million, with a requirement of making 5 seasons. Estimates put overall costs for the show and all five seasons at One Billion Dollars. cue Doctor Evil voice and laugh
 

Mezuka

Hero
I looked up the Vanity Fair article. Here is an interesting bit:

"Amazon won’t confirm the show’s budget, but on top of the money for the rights, the government of New Zealand has placed production expenditures at $462 million for the first season alone. That figure includes building infrastructure that will be used in later seasons—and it’s been offset by a $108 million tax rebate."

The 462 million is in fact minus 108 million = (edit) 354 million. Of those 354 million, an unknown amount should be spread over the 5 seasons.

That would be about (edit) 300 for ten hours against 93 million for 3 hours.
 
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doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
At any rate, it's not the size if the budget, but what you do with it.

I'm cautiously optimistic, precisely because they are making this show out if a 12 and a half page Appendix: other than broad strokes, this will all be original, which is much better potential than the weird half and half muddle of the Hobbit trilogy.

And the Dwarf princess is the best thing ever, the haters gonna hate.
Yeah I wish they had the Silmarrilion to work with, but this is a good point.
 

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