The Mandalorian & Grogu Trailer

[Rabulias]

Thirdly, there's a Mantellian Savrip, first introduced in the OG Star Wars as a holographic dejarik piece.

From the trailer I saw today in front of Crime 101, it looks like we are going to get all the Dejarik game creatures in live-action in the arena!

 

[Deset Gled]

Okay, rant time. This is as good of a place as any.

The one thing this movie desperately needs to do is give the Yoda/Grogu species a name.

Keeping Yoda's species unnamed was a cute little thing George Lucas bestowed upon the EU from very early days. It was one of the mandates given to WEG, and has remained as a sacred cow since then. And when we only had the original trilogy as primary canon, it made sense. Yoda was unique, and ostensibly any record of him (and anyone like him) was scrubbed sometime when the Jedi fell. And Luke was the only character who ever interacted with him. So his race was a mystery. Cool.

But keeping this bit through the prequel trilogy was just pathetic. Yoda was a major public figure, in politics and on the Jedi council. And he wasn't even unique anymore - Yaddle was there, too! There is no way his species is a secret, in universe.

The species must have a name, because that's how language works. Even if Yoda doesn't share what his species was called in his original language, or keeps the planet of origin or other facts secret. There will still be a word that people use (in universe) to refer to that species. Because people talk about things, and give labels to things. That's just the reality of how words and communication function. Even if it's "Unidentified Life Form #256", or some equivalent of "John Doe Species". It is impossible that a label for it doesn't exist.

Which means the name of the species is only a secret to the audience. And that's pretty stupid. A blatant meta mandate from George Lucas that makes no sense and serves no purpose. It's a form of a fourth wall break. They might as well mug to the camera and wink every time they say "Yoda".

Disney had a chance to fix this in The Last Jedi when they brought back Yoda's force ghost, but didn't. Okay, they weren't ready to rock that boat yet, and his appearance was limited enough that it could be overlooked. And in the beginning of The Mandalorian, they could still play with it a little bit, because Mando himself didn't really know what he was getting into. But the longer that The Mandalorian goes on, the more ridiculous it gets to keep up this farce. In universe, people know that this species exists. With or without Grogu saying it, people are talking about him and his race. In universe, people are using a label for that race. Now that it's a major motion picture, it's time. Give the species a name. Anything less is just beating a horse that's been dead so long it might as well be a force ghost.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It definitely seems like Filoni believes the primary audience for Star Wars stuff is the people who watch the animated stuff. Which, to be fair, is probably their most devoted audience. I'm just not sure how large it is compared to the "just go to the movies" folks.

Bigger than the "just go to the movies" audience, since that audience doesn't exist any more. But not big enough to make the movie profitable. It will do well on Disney+, but I doubt enough to make back it's budget.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Okay, rant time. This is as good of a place as any.

The one thing this movie desperately needs to do is give the Yoda/Grogu species a name.

Keeping Yoda's species unnamed was a cute little thing George Lucas bestowed upon the EU from very early days. It was one of the mandates given to WEG, and has remained as a sacred cow since then. And when we only had the original trilogy as primary canon, it made sense. Yoda was unique, and ostensibly any record of him (and anyone like him) was scrubbed sometime when the Jedi fell. And Luke was the only character who ever interacted with him. So his race was a mystery. Cool.

But keeping this bit through the prequel trilogy was just pathetic. Yoda was a major public figure, in politics and on the Jedi council. And he wasn't even unique anymore - Yaddle was there, too! There is no way his species is a secret, in universe.

The species must have a name, because that's how language works. Even if Yoda doesn't share what his species was called in his original language, or keeps the planet of origin or other facts secret. There will still be a word that people use (in universe) to refer to that species. Because people talk about things, and give labels to things. That's just the reality of how words and communication function. Even if it's "Unidentified Life Form #256", or some equivalent of "John Doe Species". It is impossible that a label for it doesn't exist.

Which means the name of the species is only a secret to the audience. And that's pretty stupid. A blatant meta mandate from George Lucas that makes no sense and serves no purpose. It's a form of a fourth wall break. They might as well mug to the camera and wink every time they say "Yoda".

Disney had a chance to fix this in The Last Jedi when they brought back Yoda's force ghost, but didn't. Okay, they weren't ready to rock that boat yet, and his appearance was limited enough that it could be overlooked. And in the beginning of The Mandalorian, they could still play with it a little bit, because Mando himself didn't really know what he was getting into. But the longer that The Mandalorian goes on, the more ridiculous it gets to keep up this farce. In universe, people know that this species exists. With or without Grogu saying it, people are talking about him and his race. In universe, people are using a label for that race. Now that it's a major motion picture, it's time. Give the species a name. Anything less is just beating a horse that's been dead so long it might as well be a force ghost.

It's a plot point in the Mandalorian TV show that no one, not even scientists, can identify Grogu's species. It seems likely that the species is virtually extinct.

As for Yoda being a public figure, that's really not the case. He interacts with public figures, but never makes a public speech or appears on mass media. The jedi council is not a public body.

 

[Aeson]

This isn't the first time for an alien that speaks basic. There's Ziro the Hutt.
Asajj Ventures. No good clips of her that I could find.

And of course.

Kaminoans