tetsujin28
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None of the new girls are nearly as hot as Maren Jensen was. Hoo boy.
The new Battlestar
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JacktheRabbit
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jdavis said:
AICN where the pompus, and arrogant go to feel vindicated. I fail to see why anyone cares what those vapor heads say about anything. They barely enjoy any movie they like but instead whine about how horrible everything is. I would love to see what kind of horrible hack job Mr Internet Tough guy over there would write if given the chance.
JacktheRabbit
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Silver Moon said:
LOL, you didnt mind watching a show where 12 entire planets of people are going to die horribly but when a single child is killed by accident (yes it was an accident the Cylon really did not know an infant is so fragile it cannot hold the weight of its own head) and you turn it off.
Yes the scene was disturbing but it taught you a lot about the Cylons. They are not just pure intellect. Cylons actually appear to have emotions based on her confused upset reaction to the infant dying as well as other scenes.
Ok, I'll throw my opinions in as well:
As someone who watched the original, I'll have to say I was surprised how much I liked this new take on it.
I believe many of the discussions here so far missed what I thought the major point of the show (so far) was: Responsibility.
Adama pointed it out in his speech that humanity didn't take responisbility for creating the Cylons.
Apollo blames his father for not taking responsibility for his other son's death (the whole "he wasn't cut out to be a fighter pilot" scene).
Baltar not wanting to believe and/or take responsibilty for allowing #6 to access the Defense network (her "your capability for self-deception" comment as the Cylon attack started was great).
And I believe the whole "baby killing" scene was meant to show that the Cylons are just like us - IMHO, #6 did not mean to kill the baby. In the beginning of the scene, she seemed facinated by the baby, asked to hold it, talked to the mother about how small and fragile it was, coo'd to it. Not the action of an impersonal machine (remember how she asked the officer on the station to "prove" he was alive? How she claimes to Baltar that she is a woman, not a machine?). But then as the mother is called away for a moment, #6 wonders "how does the neck support all that weight?". Like a child who doesn't know any better she reaches down to play around with it. Snap. Oops. Then she scoots away, not taking responsibilty for it, just like her creators (humans). It's on the look on her face when she ducks away.
I've watched kids do the same thing, break something without meaning to and then try to hide the fact. I mean, what did she care, she told the baby he wouldn't have to cry much longer (because she knew the attack was about to begin to wipe out the colonies anyway), so why kill it on purpose?
Then we start to have a change in the responsibility theme:
The Minister of Education taking charge on the liner. (43rd in line? Wow!)
Adama taking charge of the fleet.
Colonel Tigh making the hard decision to vacc the compartment to save the Galactica. If he would have given the Chief his "40 seconds" the fire may have reached the fuel storage. It was a tough call, 85 dead. But he took responsibilty for it (after not wanting to take responsibility for starting the fight with Starbuck by pitching the table at her, or taking responsibility for his drinking problem).
That's my thoughts at least, I know I'll tune in tonight to check out Part 2.
As someone who watched the original, I'll have to say I was surprised how much I liked this new take on it.
I believe many of the discussions here so far missed what I thought the major point of the show (so far) was: Responsibility.
Adama pointed it out in his speech that humanity didn't take responisbility for creating the Cylons.
Apollo blames his father for not taking responsibility for his other son's death (the whole "he wasn't cut out to be a fighter pilot" scene).
Baltar not wanting to believe and/or take responsibilty for allowing #6 to access the Defense network (her "your capability for self-deception" comment as the Cylon attack started was great).
And I believe the whole "baby killing" scene was meant to show that the Cylons are just like us - IMHO, #6 did not mean to kill the baby. In the beginning of the scene, she seemed facinated by the baby, asked to hold it, talked to the mother about how small and fragile it was, coo'd to it. Not the action of an impersonal machine (remember how she asked the officer on the station to "prove" he was alive? How she claimes to Baltar that she is a woman, not a machine?). But then as the mother is called away for a moment, #6 wonders "how does the neck support all that weight?". Like a child who doesn't know any better she reaches down to play around with it. Snap. Oops. Then she scoots away, not taking responsibilty for it, just like her creators (humans). It's on the look on her face when she ducks away.
I've watched kids do the same thing, break something without meaning to and then try to hide the fact. I mean, what did she care, she told the baby he wouldn't have to cry much longer (because she knew the attack was about to begin to wipe out the colonies anyway), so why kill it on purpose?
Then we start to have a change in the responsibility theme:
The Minister of Education taking charge on the liner. (43rd in line? Wow!)
Adama taking charge of the fleet.
Colonel Tigh making the hard decision to vacc the compartment to save the Galactica. If he would have given the Chief his "40 seconds" the fire may have reached the fuel storage. It was a tough call, 85 dead. But he took responsibilty for it (after not wanting to take responsibility for starting the fight with Starbuck by pitching the table at her, or taking responsibility for his drinking problem).
That's my thoughts at least, I know I'll tune in tonight to check out Part 2.
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Psychotic Dreamer
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I agree totally Zenon. I caught the message of responsibility myself. Since Zenon's thoughts echo mine, I wont go into detail. 
Storm Raven
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jester47 said:
Modular design. Having a mobile multipurpose "centurion" unit allows the same "brain" to be used for mutliple functions. A design that is too specialized becomes useless in situations where that specialty is not called for.
Storm Raven
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My reaction to watching the show was this: "So, they just remade Wing Commander with robot enemies instead of kilrathi? And, as a double bonus, they are going to hit every tired worn out military movie cliche character and situation. Color me unimpressed."
JacktheRabbit
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Storm Raven said:
Some examples please?
Number 6 - plot hole or plot point? While we know there is more than one human looking cylon we don't know how how many versions of her are out there. We have one asking the officer if he is alive, then in a very short time, one that has been a planet long enough to devolop a relationship with Baltar to work on defense contracts.
I think they were all different parts of one unit, named Lucifer!
Desdichado
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Eh, sci-fi fans are not notorious football watchers, I've found. They also are often "techie" people and might well have TiVo.jdavis said:
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