The (new) Immortals Handbook Thread

[Upper_Krust]

Hey S'mon!

Hi Craig - great to hear your work is with the editor!

Indeed. The whole thing has been sitting on about 99% completion for a few weeks now, and I found myself having to grind out the last details. So I thought I would give it to the editor lest I spend another month pouring over minutiae.

Hey CRGreathouse!

Thanks, I appreciate it. I have two things to say about the Bestiary preview:
* It really needed an editor. It *was* sprinkled with all kinds of things that would annoy people, especially those who pay close attention to mechanics.

Thats why we have you!

...though to be fair I did say you only had a 99% completed version, I mean I havent even read over the whole thing yet!

* It's really good. It's much better than the sample monsters, and it's packed with information.

There is A LOT of stuff in there beyond simply the monsters.

Speaking of sample monsters I rewrote large chunks of the Amilictli and Anakim last night (for the preview) and I think they are now less of a mess.

Even if all the illustrations are stick figures I'd recommend getting it.

How did you get hold of the art!?!?

Of course, there will undoubtedly still be some mistakes in the final product that I've missed -- feel free to point them out!!

What happened to 'I don't make mistakes'?

 

[Knight Otu]

What happened to 'I don't make mistakes'?

Want a content reader? As it happens, I have a credit as a content reader for XRP's Beast Builder...


Note: Offer not fully serious.

 

[historian]

This is going to be very, very cool.

I stopped posting in such threads when I started working on the Immortals Handbook (which says how long ago it was!), but I have this universal theory, the seeds of which started back then, a sort of theory of everything you might say, kosmically speaking, that ties everything together that I think people will get a kick out of. It ties in the kabbalah/sephiroth; quintessence; the book of Enoch; sanskrit spiritualism and chakras; the occult ages of man (eg. Atlantis); real world dimensional theory (I kid you not); the celestial order; the zodiac (people will love what I have done with this); elements of the Devachan; the Guardian Wall; Karma; the quartenary/ternary; Tarot, and a few other surprises all wrapped up in one simple package.

Can't wait!!

Small snippet of news. I have been working on the Challenge Ratings in the preview and it appears the spread is CR 9 (Force Guardian) to CR 1181 (Neutronium Golem).

When I get all the Challenge Ratings done I'll update the website with them.

Incidently, in the Preview I also have ghosted (grayed) target CRs for the monsters in the second half of the Bestiary. So you can get to see who is tougher than the Neutronium Golem and who would get vapourised by its pulsed x-ray attack.

Historian = CR 2 (U_K scale, not WOTC).

 

[CRGreathouse]

Historian = CR 2 (U_K scale, not WOTC).

Actually, we're scaling the CRs to match WotC's scale, so a CR 20 in U_K's system should be comparable to a CR 20 in the MM. Of course, some of the monsters in the MM are off as some undoubtedly are in the Bestiary: the Force Guardian seems a lot tougher than CR 9 to me.

 

[historian]

Thanks CRG.

Actually, we're scaling the CRs to match WotC's scale, so a CR 20 in U_K's system should be comparable to a CR 20 in the MM.

I think that's more straightforward (apples to apples/less nomenclature). Does that mean, however, that the Neutronium Golem is CR 1181 by WOTC's scale?

 

[CRGreathouse]

I think that's more straightforward (apples to apples/less nomenclature). Does that mean, however, that the Neutronium Golem is CR 1181 by WOTC's scale?

This is my understanding. Remember, I'm working off the 99% version -- mine has slightly different CRs for both of these monsters, as I recall.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey all!

Actually, we're scaling the CRs to match WotC's scale, so a CR 20 in U_K's system should be comparable to a CR 20 in the MM.

You'll still have the ECL listed (at the start of the book along with the CR list) as well as the CR and the Level adjustment, for those who use that approach, in each entry.

So don't worry, its all in there.

Remembering of course that ECL = my CR. Which you don't even need anyway since WotC CR is simply 2/3rds ECL/my CR. So all you need do is multiply the CR x1.5.

Of course, some of the monsters in the MM are off as some undoubtedly are in the Bestiary: the Force Guardian seems a lot tougher than CR 9 to me.

I think the problem may lie in its damage reduction (which is a wholly new type, for those in attendance), I could be undervaluing it...I'll look into it. In fact thinking about it, theres no way I would even want to have that as a cosmic power its so tough.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I think the problem may lie in its damage reduction (which is a wholly new type, for those in attendance), I could be undervaluing it...I'll look into it. In fact thinking about it, theres no way I would even want to have that as a cosmic power its so tough.

Yep, I think you've hit on it there.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey CR Greathouse mate!

Yep, I think you've hit on it there.

Taking it as a Transcendental Ability the force guardian becomes CR 13, force golem CR 20 and so on.

Now all I have to work out is whether the Mercury Golems main ability is Transcendental or Omnific.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Now all I have to work out is whether the Mercury Golems main ability is Transcendental or Omnific.

Actually, I don't think it's as harsh as the Force Golem ability. That's rough.