The (new) Immortals Handbook Thread

[poilbrun]

UK, CRG, could you take this talk to private messages, the teasing is killing me

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey guys!

Actually, I don't think it's as harsh as the Force Golem ability.

I think one is more powerful at relatively lower levels while the other is more powerful at relatively higher levels.

That's rough.

'Epic' even.

UK, CRG, could you take this talk to private messages, the teasing is killing me.

Sure thing mate...from now on I mean.

By the way everyone, poilbrun here is getting married this Saturday to his gorgeous girlfriend Isabelle. I'd just like to take this opportunity to wish them both the very best for the future. Maybe when hes sipping margaritas on the beach in Jamaica he'll spare a thought for his old mate krusty slaving over a hot keyboard.

 

[historian]

By the way everyone, poilbrun here is getting married this Saturday to his gorgeous girlfriend Isabelle. I'd just like to take this opportunity to wish them both the very best for the future. Maybe when hes sipping margaritas on the beach in Jamaica he'll spare a thought for his old mate krusty slaving over a hot keyboard.

Congratulations!!!

 

[Nifelhein]

Hey, congratulations on the marriage poilbrun, may your lives be full of rpg sessions, healthy and deep sleeper children and lots of fun.

 

[poilbrun]

Sure thing mate...from now on I mean.

I'm just kidding you, you know, but it was a bit frustrating reading about all those details while we haven't seen it yet... The Now all I have to work out is whether the Mercury Golems main ability is Transcendental or Omnific. part was really hard on me

By the way everyone, poilbrun here is getting married this Saturday to his gorgeous girlfriend Isabelle. I'd just like to take this opportunity to wish them both the very best for the future. Maybe when hes sipping margaritas on the beach in Jamaica he'll spare a thought for his old mate krusty slaving over a hot keyboard.

Thanks mate, and to anyone with good wishes! I'm sure I've met the half that was missing from me in Isabelle, and I hope our wedding will be the beginning of a wonderful life. And then it gives me a reason/excuse to take a two-week holiday in Jamaica!

 

[Baronovan]

Well, good luck, polibrun. We know what Dyson would say about marriage, though.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Is Holy Word Broken!?

Hey all!

I'm sure I've met the half that was missing from me in Isabelle...

You smoothe tongued arch-devil you!

Okay, I have been going over some stuff today and I think Holy Word is broken (at least at epic levels). I'm amazed I never spotted it before.

eg. At 30th-level you can kill any 20th-level character (of the appropriate alignment) with no save! The fact that its also an area spell means you can automatically kill any opponent 10 levels beneath you.

As I show with the CR/EL guide characters can still be threatened by opponents with as low as 1/4 their CR no matter the level. Holy Word is therefore in violation of this, and much too powerful at epic levels.

My initial nerfing of the spell is as follows, tell me what you think.

Equal Level - Deafened
-1 levels or less - Blinded
3/4 levels or less - paralysed
1/2 levels or less - killed

 

[Dragonblade]

So when is this book coming out and do we get a print version or just PDF?

 

[Alzrius]

Okay, I have been going over some stuff today and I think Holy Word is broken (at least at epic levels). I'm amazed I never spotted it before.

eg. At 30th-level you can kill any 20th-level character (of the appropriate alignment) with no save! The fact that its also an area spell means you can automatically kill any opponent 10 levels beneath you.

As I show with the CR/EL guide characters can still be threatened by opponents with as low as 1/4 their CR no matter the level. Holy Word is therefore in violation of this, and much too powerful at epic levels.

My initial nerfing of the spell is as follows, tell me what you think.

Equal Level - Deafened
-1 levels or less - Blinded
3/4 levels or less - paralysed
1/2 levels or less - killed

I'm willing to take this at face value.

 

[Fieari]

At lower levels this is actually a buff... Holy Word can generally be attained at 14th level, meaning that when you first get it, normally it kills 4 HD things, but now 7HD things, for a difference of 3HD. That's a fairly significant buff... I can imagine throwing some 7HD creatures at an ECL14 party, especially if I threw a LOT of 7HD things at them at once.

Perhaps there's some way to word it that they must be at -least- 10HD below your level, but then use the more relative scaling when 1/2 you HD is greater than 10? The concept is simple enough, but wording it may be tricky...