The other side of film dissonance...

Dark Jezter said:
Amen to that. If I may quote Maxim magazine's thoughts on The Thin Red Line: I walked into this movie expecting a World War II action movie, but instead found myself at a candy-ass poetry reading.
Exactly. It was too "deep" for it's own good. Just ended up making little sense and was wholy unentertaining. I would have been happier taking a nap. With all those stars it should have at least had moments of brilliance.
Dark Jezter said:
A.I.: What the hell? Why do so many people like this movie? I had high hopes for this movie after hearing the critics drool over it, but aferwards I was thuroughly underwhelmed.
There were some fantastic scenes in this movie but it left me cold. Not a great flick and it deserves to be on an overrated list for sure.
Dark Jezter said:
Moulan Rouge: You know, there's a reason that musicals stopped being popular 30 years ago.
I loved this flick so I shan't comment. :)
Dark Jezter said:
Sorry John, but I've just got to mention one more that probably won't make you happy...

Chasing Amy: To this day, I still don't understand why this is considered Kevin Smith's best movie. I rented it and watched it with my friend because we were expecting to be entertained like we were with Clerks, but when it was over I actually apologized to my friend for subjecting him to it. It had some genuinely funny moments in it, but the film on a whole left a bad taste in my mouth.
Doesn't bug me at all. His films aren't exactly mainstream. I have a special place in my heart for that film but I don't expect everyone to love it. My ex-GF hated it, too. ;)
 

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I've never heard of anyone saying that Chasing Amy was KS's
best flick. I have heard several people saying that it was his most
mature film, which is IMO true. I guess for some people (critics
especially), mature = quality.

I liked it for what it was, but it's not the best Askewniverse film IMO.
 

Akira. I honestly don't get what everybody seems to see in it. The plot was mediocre (though original), the dialogue only average, and the ending made NO FRICKIN' SENSE! It's an OK movie, sure, but IMO it just can't stand up to the likes of Ghost in the Shell or Perfect Blue

Fellowship of the Ring vs. The Two Towers. I thought TTT was WAY cooler than the first one, and I gave the first one 10 out of 10. FotR wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it just didn't have the...the...death, destruction and giant battles of the second. And I'm that shallow. :D
 

Didn't care for Two Towers (loved Fellowship, love the books)
American Beauty: Man I hated that movie, was it supposed to make sense?
Cast Away: Was hoping he'd die on the island.
The Patriot: Well I never finished it so it could of got better, but I doubt it.
A.I.: That's the most polished turd I have ever seen. What a wonderful looking piece of crap.
Armageddon: Rooting for the astroid to win. The Earth's destruction was preferable to seeing the cast live.
Trainspotting: Was I supposed to feel sympathy for the drug addicts?
Babe 2: Talking pigs do not always equal fun.
Crimson Tide: give him the key already, blow up Russia and let me go home.

The big winner is;
The Nightmare Before Christmas: my hatred knows no bounds.
 

Traffic, What an awful waste of my time. It was drivel.
Three Kings was pretty poor as well.
Titanic and Chicago are firmly place in the please stop gagging me category.
 

Good lists so far, I agree with most of them. Armageddon, Patriot, Titanic and Gladiator were all films that I'd categorize as mediocre at best. And while I enjoy both Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Rocky Horror Picture Show, I have close friends who can't stand them, and will admit they are an acquired taste.

Here are my three for the list.

Silence of the Lambs - I didn't see anything more in this film more than the standard tv movie of the week. Anthony Hopkins's mindgames were somewhat entertaining, but even that was very predictable.

The Sixth Sense - Okay, I won't give away the surprise in case there is anyone reading this who hasn't seen it, but I figured it out less than halfway through, and was bored by the film from that point on.

Natural Born Killers - The most unwatchable film I have ever sat through. I don't know what Oliver Stone was thinking.
 

Silver Moon said:
The Sixth Sense - Okay, I won't give away the surprise in case there is anyone reading this who hasn't seen it, but I figured it out less than halfway through, and was bored by the film from that point on.

I've never seen this movie. As soon as I heard that there was a "surprise" ending, I knew exactly what it was.

Another film to add to my dislike list is Zu, Warriors Of Magic Mountain (I think that's the full title). Lots of flying and quick cuts. I've tried watching a few others of Hark's films, and I haven't liked any of them. Not a Tsui Hark fan.

Then again, I'm not a fan of wire-fu movies in general. I prefer my kung-fu old school. :)

I'm also not that big a fan of Jackie Chan. Most of his films are the same, especially his most recent non-American ones: he plays someone named "Jackie", doesn't do much actual fighting, and the climax involves some kind of machinery or stunt, but not a fight (It's a kung-fu movie! You're supposed to fight!).

Plus, I once spoke to someone who worked on one of his US films. She talked about how she saw him on a talk show describing how scared he was doing a big stunt in the movie. According to her "it was scary for the stuntman". Jackie just filmed the set up and ending while someone else actually did the stunt.

Now, I know he's getting up there in years, so I don't fault him for using stuntmen. But, if he uses one, he shouldn't take credit for their work.

Speaking of honesty, put me down against Bowling For Columbine. This "documentary" is the darling of most critics, even though virtually everything in it has been discredited or proven to have been staged by it's director, Michael Moore. Fortunately, there's a documentary being produced called Michael Moore Hates America which disects Bowling, showing exactly what he faked and how.

Hopefully, it will win best documentary at the Oscars. Just for the sake of irony. :D

Sorry, but honesty is my biggest fault. It's better to have someone be honest and say they don't like you than have a weasel for a friend.

And don't ever ask for my opinion because I'll give it to you. :)
 
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Villano said:

Speaking of honesty, put me down against Bowling For Columbine. This "documentary" is the darling of most critics, even though virtually everything in it has been discredited or proven to have been staged by it's director, Michael Moore. Fortunately, there's a documentary being produced called Michael Moore Hates America which disects Bowling, showing exactly what he faked and how.

Hopefully, it will win best documentary at the Oscars. Just for the sake of irony. :D

Sorry, but honesty is my biggest fault. It's better to have someone be honest and say they don't like you than have a weasel for a friend.

And don't ever ask for my opinion because I'll give it to you. :)

So, you don't like Bowling because it was bad, or because you don't like the fact that he didn't hew 100% to the documentary format? Because Winged Migration, another Oscar nominee, faked a bunch of stuff too in a way that sounds even worse than what I've heard about Bowling for Columbine, and I don't see anyone attacking that movie.
 
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Natural born killers, ug. I was expecting to find my brains leaking out of my ears.

Moulin Rouge, what a horrid movie that was.

Thin red line, made me want to create one on my wrists.

Never got why Akira was so popular, i thought it was fare at best.

Didn't make it though the first five minutes of Traffic.
 

Tarrasque Wrangler said:


So, you don't like Bowling because it was bad, or because you don't like the fact that he didn't hew 100% to the documentary format? Because Winged Migration, another Oscar nominee, faked a bunch of stuff too in a way that sounds even worse than what I've heard about Bowling for Columbine, and I don't see anyone attacking that movie.


Well, when you fake pretty much everything, that's a bit more than not hewing "100% to the documentary format". Lying or staging events that you claim occurred due to other reasons takes it well out of the documentary format and into propaganda.

And a documentary that isn't a documentary would be a bad movie by it's very nature since it isn't what it claims to be. A musical without singing or even music would be bad as well.

I'll admit that I haven't heard anything about Winged Migration faking its footage, but the reason for that is probably because it naturally won't get as much press due to the fact that it lost. However, the "someone else did something bad and didn't get caught so why are you picking on me?" excuse doesn't hold much water. If both faked things, they should both be taken to task for it.

And I don't think you've heard everything about Bowling since I can't imagine a film faking more things than it did.

Even the title isn't true since the boys never went bowling that morning as Moore claims. And that's been known since the time of the shooting. I mean, if you can't trust the facts of the title of a film that purports to tell the truth...

Heck, Michael Moore recently claimed that both it and Roger & Me have been made into required viewing in French schools. Needless to say, the French are saying that this is just ridiculous and untrue.

And that's just one of the things he's saying. You can fill a website with these things...and people have.

Truthfully, I think Moore has some sort of psychological problem. I can't believe he sees the world the same way everyone else does or else he wouldn't sight written sources for his claims that say nothing even remotely close to what he says.
 

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