The paladin. A story and a question.
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Shemeska
Adventurer
Zimri said:
Kelemvor isn't a good deity, he's LN. His 'paladins' are a bit of a special exception.
I would suspect though that his church would provide a wink and a nod to intelligent undead who simply minded their own business or were actively benevolent. I can't see his church hunting down the ghost dragon that guards Candlekeep, or the various Baelnorns guarding elven tombs, etc. Plus there's the fact that Jergal, a minor patron of various undead, works in some capacity under Kelemvor as a tutor to some extent, guiding let the latest holder of a deific position that he willingly abdicated millennia ago. I doubt Kelemvor would have his priests hunting down undead servitors of Jergal.
Montague68
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SS said:
The only version of "evil" the paladin has to deal with is that set forth by his deity and his code. God hates the undead - they are destroyed, no questions asked. No violation of any sort.
Monks attacking the paladin were harboring said undead, and attacked out of revenge for its loss, thus were fair game. Paladin killed them in self defense, no violation.
Let's put it in another perspecitve:
During WWII, an American soldier is part of an elite secret organization charged with killing any Nazi in the US. He walks into a church and is approached by a man in a Gestapo uniform. The soldier shoots the man dead. He then is attacked by club-wielding priests who scream that the man killed their friend and that he was a GOOD Nazi. The soldier shoots them both dead in self-defense.
Now, any chance the US government disciplines the soldier? No way. Any chance the government sends a squad of troops, closes down the church and hauls away every surviving member for questioning and gives the soldier a commendation? Much more likely.
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Demmero
Explorer
Mechnomancer said:
Re-read the first post. The OP goes on to say that:
Obviously, this paladin got that part wrong. Maybe he got the first part wrong, too. Seems to me that the paladin's seeing things and doing things the way HE wants, not necessarily the way his god dictates.
Mechnomancer said:
The OP says the deity "loathes the undead." That's not the same thing as demanding the destruction of all undead. Personally, I loathe purple, screaming babies with full, stinky diapers. I do not try to kill them, though; nor would I expect anyone working in my name to kill any such baby. I loathe them, so I try to avoid them. Simple as that.
And where does this god's creed allow for the killing of LN monks in their own monastery...monks who are doing the good deed of protecting a nearby village? It doesn't. Killing them is a major screw-up for a paladin, if not an outright evil act.
Poetic justice would be if some REAL paladins stumbled across the carnage in the monastery and tracked down and killed the monster who slew the kindly monks who protected the village in the valley.
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"Hey Galahad you just slew something that your deity reviles and has declared should be hunted and destroyed what are you going to do now ........ ?"Demmero said:
"Ummmm stand here and let the followers of the big bad thing elbow and headbutt me to death thus losing the overall war while winning one small battle"
Yeah THAT sounds exactly like what should happen.
Rel
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Zimri said:
Zimri, the snarky sarcasm here is bordering on a rules violation and the RL religion reference above was definately a rules violation. There are ways of making your point without resorting to this kind of thing. I suggest you avail yourself of them or find another thread to participate in.
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