D&D General The Purple Dragon Knights are tied to an Amethyst Dragon (confirmed)

[Scribe]

Describing the Earth's core as being "like an egg's yolk" doesn't mean the Earth is going to hatch into a baby bird.

 

[Necropolitan]

You are basically just going “nah I don’t believe you and all this history cause I don’t like it”

Nope.

I'm going by what's actually been established.

There is no "all this history," there's zero evidence other than a single misinterpreted paragraph.

The context makes it clear what's actually meant.

 

[Parmandur]

Nope.

I'm going by what's actually been established.

There is no "all this history," there's zero evidence other than a single misinterpreted paragraph.

The context makes it clear what's actually meant.

The context makes it quite clear that the Forgotten Realms has echos and alternate universes, as is standard for D&D.

 

[Necropolitan]

There is no in-universe multiverse for the Forgotten Realms.

If WOTC adds one it'll be yet another bad decision.

 

[Jensaarai]

I distinctly remember Fizban's Treasury talking about multiple material planes

 

[Demetrios1453]

It's clearly not being literal, it's describing things in a way that's easy for DMs to understand.

Describing the Earth's core as being "like an egg's yolk" doesn't mean the Earth is going to hatch into a baby bird.

No, it would hatch into a turtle. Big enough for four elephants to stand on it to hold up the flat remains of the world upon their backs.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

"Every table decides for themselves" isn't the same as "There are infinite versions of the Forgotten Realms that can interact with each other like in Rick and Morty."

Parallel prime material planes where in the 1st edition AD&D DMG. That’s how come Ed Greenwood was able to converse with Elminster and Mordenkainen in his kitchen in Canada (Dragon).

It was a common idea that players could transfer PCs into different campaigns by planar travel.

The Multiverse was a big deal in the 60s and 70s, and Moorcock was a big influence on early D&D (along with Dr Strange and Narnia which didn’t make it into appendix N).

And Rick and Morty is based on a 1985 movie.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Parallel prime material planes where in the 1st edition AD&D DMG. That’s how come Ed Greenwood was able to converse with Elminster and Mordenkainen in his kitchen in Canada (Dragon).

It was a common idea that players could transfer PCs into different campaigns by planar travel.

None of that requires a "multiverse". Our own universe has multiple planets. Oerth and Toril and Earth can exist just as, you know, different worlds. It doesn't suppose the existence 600 different parallel Elminsters.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

None of that requires a "multiverse".

The multiverse was there, in the rules, irrespective of if it was "needed" or not. Read the 1st edition DMG and you will find the words "parallel prime material plane" in black and white. And in the pop culture of the time. Why are people so keen to rewrite the history of the game? The game was created by young radicals in touch with 70s pop culture, not conservative fuddy-duddys, and Mordenkainen and Elminster did not arrive in Canada by rocket ship.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I see nonreason to take it non-literally, given that 5E has always emphasized D&D as a Multiverse. You can say it is juat a metaphor, but that is juat one interpretation, one I find exceedingly unlikely, especially since that book is written by the same guy wrote Fizban's and the new DMG, James Wyatt.

Fantasy stories started out as folk tales. And many folk tales are extended metaphors: "don't play near the water children or Green Jenny will get you!"

There was a Doctor Who story in which the Moon hatched into a giant space creature. It might seem silly, but the point of fantasy is you can tell any story you like, irrespective of how silly it seems. And studying physics, you learn that “the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.”