der_kluge
Adventurer
Samothdm said:I think die_kluge makes a good point - how do you turn a casual fan into an enthusiast?
I game in two groups - one that I DM and the other where I'm a player.
In both groups, I've noticed a general lack of interest on the part of players to buy/read other D&D books beyond just the Players Handbook.
It's extremely frustrating for the group for which I DM. I've spent the past 12+ years creating a pretty detailed world and I update our game-related website every week. Only one or two of my players ever read it.
I mention new feats, new spells, new PrCs to them and their eyes glaze over. Many of them don't even understand what a PrC is, even after I've showed them the classes in the DMG and splatbooks and explained how they can qualify.
I bought a Player's Handbook and DotF for my cleric player for his birthday and he's never read them. But, he dutifully shows up every other week for our session. I just don't get it.
I've tried to give XP awards for people who read the website updates. Didn't work. They didn't seem to care.
I guess I'm just ranting now. But, I understand the frustration that occurs when you want to talk about aspects of the game (such as the "business" side of D&D that we can read about on these forums) and your fellow "gamers" are not interested.
SamothDM, I'm curious as to what they would say if you just asked them point-blank about their apparent lack of interest? I've encounted some players that only play one kind of character. I know some that stick to non-spellcasting classes because of the complexity. These kinds of players, while they are fans of the game, are mostly casual fans. They REALLY have a niche in the game, and don't leave that niche. These are the kinds of players that pretty much only play dwarven fighters, and nothing else. Or something similar, at least. Are your players like that?
Of the players that you have whose eyes glaze over when you get into the meat of the game, have you ever asked them why they get so bored with the details? I'd be like, "look, if you're not interested in this stuff, why do you continue to even play this game?!"