Atticus_of_Amber
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First, Neblin's Fort save is 20 [= 14 (roll)+1(base save)+3(Con)+2(Namfoodle's spell)].
Second, unless the Imp is invisible, Neblin should automaticaly see it when it attacks him. I suspect anyone who has line of sight on the imp when it attacks should also automatically see it, but I'm not so sure of this, they should at least get a spot check (not against its hide roll, as you can't attack and hide at the same time, but against a straight "spot tiny thing attacking friend from x feet away" DC). The imp will thus have to attempt to hide all over again (new roll).
Third, my understanding is that you can only hide when you have already been seen if you move out of line of sight. Given all Neblin has to do is kneel to see under the table (in fact, at 3'8", I suspect all he has to do is bend down a bit), I'm not so sure the imp can get out of his line of sight.
Fourth, how did the imp move towards Neblin, attack and then move away in the same round? Does he have haste? Does he have the spring attack feat? Or had he spent the last round moving towards Neblin under the table? If the later, doesn't moving while hiding give a penalty to hide and doesn't it allow characters with line of sight a second spot (and/or maybe listen) check?
GenieMalin, your thoughts?
First, Neblin's Fort save is 20 [= 14 (roll)+1(base save)+3(Con)+2(Namfoodle's spell)].
Second, unless the Imp is invisible, Neblin should automaticaly see it when it attacks him. I suspect anyone who has line of sight on the imp when it attacks should also automatically see it, but I'm not so sure of this, they should at least get a spot check (not against its hide roll, as you can't attack and hide at the same time, but against a straight "spot tiny thing attacking friend from x feet away" DC). The imp will thus have to attempt to hide all over again (new roll).
Third, my understanding is that you can only hide when you have already been seen if you move out of line of sight. Given all Neblin has to do is kneel to see under the table (in fact, at 3'8", I suspect all he has to do is bend down a bit), I'm not so sure the imp can get out of his line of sight.
Fourth, how did the imp move towards Neblin, attack and then move away in the same round? Does he have haste? Does he have the spring attack feat? Or had he spent the last round moving towards Neblin under the table? If the later, doesn't moving while hiding give a penalty to hide and doesn't it allow characters with line of sight a second spot (and/or maybe listen) check?
GenieMalin, your thoughts?
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