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The Superman Returns spoiler thread.

I liked it but I was also pretty disappointed by some stuff. Grim humor and Superman don't go well together. Why include the scene with the cannibal dog or making sure to point out that Superson did indeed kill another person? While it was fairly apparent to the viewer that Panda-Head was mashed potatoes, they went to the extra trouble to tell us that a 5 year old boy had done the deed. If I could cut four scenes from the movie, it would come infinately closer to portraying Superman.

Put those scenes in a Batman movie and I am all happy. It isn't the scene, it is the suitability of the scene for the character. Superman is not an Iron Age comic.
 

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Just got back and did not really care for it, found it boring, my brother even fell asleep during it and had to be knudged. It just did not hold my interest.

One of the first things that ticked me off was the Kent dog, it is an old hollywood trick to get you to like someone by having them interact with a dog, people like that and what does Sups do, throw the ball to the next country, that was just mean. From there it was just down hill. Visually it was good but characters were not that great and felt we just saw the same scene over and over again with a different object, plane, the planet globe, the island. 300 million to make and this was all I got, sorry, was not impressed and did not have fun.

Oh, Lex on the island at the end...use the radio!

6 maybe a 7.
 

Well I liked the Easter eggs (the ones I spotted anyways).

Superman's return was very similar to how he was introduced to the public in the animated series while his hospital scene reminded me of his death (and empty tomb).

Those pics the camera phone kid took - classic Superman covers, especially the car.

The dialogue around Jimmy Olson's pic (also in one of the trailers).

Perry White's line "Great Caesar's ghost!"

I think one of the dockworkers was Beppo, Bippo, Bibbo or whatever that guy's name was in the comics. I also thought the kid seeing thru Clark Kent's disguise (when his inhaler wouldn't work) was reminiscent of a similar scene from Mystery Men.

All that was needed was for Lex to say "Kneel before me, son of Jor-El." before his flunkies proceeded to use him as a Kryptonian punching bag.
 

Darthjaye said:
You had me until I read this. It was neither entertaining nor good. While I can agree with most of the other choices (except Batman Begins.), this was clearly one of the horrible adaptations. If your telling me their representation of Bulleye's look and style was good, I have to completely disagree. Just about every element of Daredevil hurt to watch. I enjoyed Punisher more than I enjoyed DD, FF, X3, or even Bats 3 & 4. I'm just trying to figure out how you say DD is more entertaining than Batman Begins though. That's gotta be the oddest choice on the list. FWIW Blade was better than DD too. The reason I pick on this choice so much is that DD is one of my favorite Marvel characters. What they did to the film version was a travesty IMO.
I think Daredevil wasn't given its credit nor punisher. Those were really good comic book movies. The feel and style felt like i was watching the comicbook. I could have done with out the overacting kingpin, but i think Ben Affleck nailed the characters pysch.

PUnisher was exactly what i expected it to from a punisher film. No punlisher kids, no self doubt, just ...:):):):) some punishing.
 

I heard the directors cut of Daredevil was a billion times better then the original release. I m dying to see it if its all that diffrent.

I dont remember the kid realizing clark was supes. I guess i gotta see the movie 2 more times to catch it!
 

horacethegrey said:
Kate Bosworth is another matter. Sorry to say this, but I think she makes a fairly average Lois Lane. Now I've heard people rag on how Margot Kidder was the ugliest actress to play the role. Sure, she wasn't hot like Teri Hatcher or Erica Durance, but at least she brought some spunk and vitality to the role. Stuff that Bosworth fails to convey, as she spends most of the film looking wistfully away at the horizon (probably pining for Orlando Bloom :p ).

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I enjoyed the movie. But I really thought Kate Bosworth was miscast. Lois is a strong woman she is very gutsy. This Lois did not seem strong or gutsy also Lois should be about 30 years old Kate Boworth is only 23 and it showed. I could not buy that she was this career woman who graduated from college and won a Pulitzer and had a five year old kid. I kept thinking what she did all this when she was 17 or 18 years old. :\

The actressesswho have played the role have had real strength and were a match for Superman they were not overshadowed by him this Lois was. I have always rooted for Lois and Clark to get togther but in this movie I found myself hoping she would stay with Richard. He is a decent guy and more this Lois's match.
 

Elf Witch said:
I enjoyed the movie. But I really thought Kate Bosworth was miscast. Lois is a strong woman she is very gutsy. This Lois did not seem strong or gutsy also Lois should be about 30 years old Kate Boworth is only 23 and it showed. I could not buy that she was this career woman who graduated from college and won a Pulitzer and had a five year old kid. I kept thinking what she did all this when she was 17 or 18 years old. :\

The actressesswho have played the role have had real strength and were a match for Superman they were not overshadowed by him this Lois was. I have always rooted for Lois and Clark to get togther but in this movie I found myself hoping she would stay with Richard. He is a decent guy and more this Lois's match.
A lot of people didnt like the casting of MIchael Keaton as the first batman. But Michael Keaton showed the wear of an older gentlement. Since then, it seems they go younger regardless of how the script calls for it. I'm getting tired of these superyoung actors playing some of these stars. I liked the casting of batman but I hated Katie Holmes as a "DA". She just didnt look like a woman. Save with Superman, but I didnt dig either casting choice. Kate seemed very young and like she was acting like Lois Lane. Felt like she was in her moms jewelry box with the make up on again.

the whole movie had that glossy king kong fill to it. As if they didnt make any attempt to let you know that this is close to a remake.
 

DonTadow said:
A lot of people didnt like the casting of MIchael Keaton as the first batman. But Michael Keaton showed the wear of an older gentlement. Since then, it seems they go younger regardless of how the script calls for it. I'm getting tired of these superyoung actors playing some of these stars. I liked the casting of batman but I hated Katie Holmes as a "DA". She just didnt look like a woman. Save with Superman, but I didnt dig either casting choice. Kate seemed very young and like she was acting like Lois Lane. Felt like she was in her moms jewelry box with the make up on again.

the whole movie had that glossy king kong fill to it. As if they didnt make any attempt to let you know that this is close to a remake.

Yep Hollywood's obssession for youth. Katie Holmes was wrong for the role she would have had to have graduated from law school when she was around 21. There are a lot of great actressess in their 30s they should be cast to play the rols of woman not young actressess who while talented just don't fit certain roles.

Michael Keaton was awesome as Batmam.
 

Elf Witch said:
Yep Hollywood's obssession for youth. Katie Holmes was wrong for the role she would have had to have graduated from law school when she was around 21. There are a lot of great actressess in their 30s they should be cast to play the rols of woman not young actressess who while talented just don't fit certain roles.

Michael Keaton was awesome as Batmam.
yeah, Supes wanted you to believe he disapeared for five years and she grows up five years, but they look like a bunch of kids headed ot the prom. If they are going with a golden age fill they should cast an older looking superman.
 

BrooklynKnight said:
I dont remember the kid realizing clark was supes. I guess i gotta see the movie 2 more times to catch it!

Oh, the hard work we must do. ;)

IIRC, shortly after Superman appears publicly, the kid interrupts a distracted (and eavesdropping) Clark since "dad's office is so boring". Lois comes over and introduces the munchkin (and her husband too), who then has an asthma attack but his aspirator is empty.

Even the dad kinda wondered about it after Lois gave him all sorts of Super-info then asked how tall Clark was, who just kinda waved goofily, right before Jimmy, Richard and "Trashcan Head" went on a food run.

Oh, the shiny rock, er, Kryptonite that Luthor and the gang got from the museum was also from the same place as the original rock that (Hackman) Luthor swiped in the original Superman - Addis Ababa.
 

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