The Superman Returns spoiler thread.

[buzzard]

I thought it was a pretty good movie. Maybe not a great movie, but certainly entertaining with very good special effects. What I particularly enjoyed was how they did a very good job of making sure you got an indea of how powerful Superman really is. Things like the eyeball deflecting a bullet and the vapor cones as he broke the sound barrier with nice little touches. I will pick up the DVD and look forward to sequels. As many others have said, I'd like to see a opponent worthy of Superman's power level without resorting to usting the kryptonite cop out.

buzzard

 

[Hand of Evil]

Sequels? With the cost of the movie and its projected take I don't think it justifies a sequel. I know it did not make me want to see more of the Man in Steel.

 

[buzzard]

Sequels? With the cost of the movie and its projected take I don't think it justifies a sequel. I know it did not make me want to see more of the Man in Steel.

I think you ought o check some numbers before you make claims. even if you didn't like the movie, the box office receipts have been respectable.

From the Washinton Post:
The Warner Bros. Pictures' big-budget comic book adventure, starring newcomer Brandon Routh, generated $52 million in receipts Friday through Sunday, grossing $84 million in its first five days, according to studio estimates released on Sunday.

"That is the largest five-day opening in Warner history," said Dan Fellman, president of Warner's domestic distribution.

I'd say that's not all that dissapointing. Granted, it was expensive to make, but reviews are generally favorable, and I don't expect it to be killed by word of moth or anything. I certainly expect it to recoup the $260 million without a lot of trouble.

buzzard

 

[Hand of Evil]

I think you ought o check some numbers before you make claims. even if you didn't like the movie, the box office receipts have been respectable.

From the Washinton Post:
The Warner Bros. Pictures' big-budget comic book adventure, starring newcomer Brandon Routh, generated $52 million in receipts Friday through Sunday, grossing $84 million in its first five days, according to studio estimates released on Sunday.

"That is the largest five-day opening in Warner history," said Dan Fellman, president of Warner's domestic distribution.

I'd say that's not all that dissapointing. Granted, it was expensive to make, but reviews are generally favorable, and I don't expect it to be killed by word of moth or anything. I certainly expect it to recoup the $260 million without a lot of trouble.

buzzard

I have, see my thread on Weekend at the boxoffice.

http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2923394&postcount=4

That being said I am not a hollywood movie maker, so odds are there will be another.

 

[DonTadow]

I think you ought o check some numbers before you make claims. even if you didn't like the movie, the box office receipts have been respectable.

From the Washinton Post:
The Warner Bros. Pictures' big-budget comic book adventure, starring newcomer Brandon Routh, generated $52 million in receipts Friday through Sunday, grossing $84 million in its first five days, according to studio estimates released on Sunday.

"That is the largest five-day opening in Warner history," said Dan Fellman, president of Warner's domestic distribution.

I'd say that's not all that dissapointing. Granted, it was expensive to make, but reviews are generally favorable, and I don't expect it to be killed by word of moth or anything. I certainly expect it to recoup the $260 million without a lot of trouble.

buzzard

Just about every movie will have a sequel when the budget is this big. Superman needed not be good to get a sequal. Its going to easily make its money in box sets for eons, special editions, world releases. People just go see it to see Superman, not to see a good movie .

 

[Darthjaye]

Most people forget that international distribution makes a large chunk of their profits too. That and DVD sales. Once all those numbers are in, you'll see why they will be making more.

As for the movie, my son (nearly 4) and I both enjoyed it and he kept asking me to buy it on DVD now. The casting of a young Lois wasn't the greatest, but everything else was good. I enjoyed the movie from beginning to end and would have payed full price to see it. I will more than likely see it again (of course after Pirates comes out). Singer said in an interview, that he had filmed scenes with Supermans trip to Krypton, but dropped it for length of time and cause in the end, it did little for the main story. He's hinted that (and as we all know the way DVD sales work by now) there will be a version released someday with that footage reintegrated. It will be the Super Duper Ultimate Blue Ray Special wrapped in a real steel casing whatever yada yada edition of course.

 

[Endur]

With the cost of the movie and its projected take I don't think it justifies a sequel.

Movie costs use funny accounting rules. Supposedly at least $40 million of the costs was money spent in the 90's i.e. money that wasn't really spent on this movie, but was spent on previous attempts to make a Superman sequel that never went into production.

Superman will make a tremendous amount of money for Warner, probably more profits from this one movie than all the rest of Warner's movies for the year put together.

 

[DonTadow]

Movie costs use funny accounting rules. Supposedly at least $40 million of the costs was money spent in the 90's i.e. money that wasn't really spent on this movie, but was spent on previous attempts to make a Superman sequel that never went into production.

Superman will make a tremendous amount of money for Warner, probably more profits from this one movie than all the rest of Warner's movies for the year put together.

Now that i seriously doubt. The movie has already been lumped by media into the Mediocre to failure range. It only made 50 million in its first week. Decent, but by no means a blockbuster. This weekend barely surprassed last years dismal revenues for movies. Superman will get its sequals but unfortuantely it failed to get anywhere close to spiderman. It did surpass Batman's opening weekend, but Batman did not have a holiday lead in nor did it have anywhere near the high budget.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I don't know if the overseas market will help Superman, because he is so iconic to America (did you notice how they did not say the Americian way, when they said the line truth, justice...). Plus this weekend it is Pirates, and I will lay odds it will do better than 54 million for its opening weekend.

Don't get me wrong Superman Returns will make a lot of money when it is all said and done but if you follow the takes it will be about 22 million next weekend, 10 the next, then 5 and then gone from the top 10. Four weeks, domestic total 180 million to 220 million.

Movies seem to depend more on domestic for sequels but that has been changing.

Domestic: $84,208,000 81.0% (five days)
+ Foreign: $19,800,000 19.0%
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= Worldwide: $104,008,000

 

[Darthjaye]

I don't know if the overseas market will help Superman, because he is so iconic to America (did you notice how they did not say the Americian way, when they said the line truth, justice...). Plus this weekend it is Pirates, and I will lay odds it will do better than 54 million for its opening weekend.

Don't get me wrong Superman Returns will make a lot of money when it is all said and done but if you follow the takes it will be about 22 million next weekend, 10 the next, then 5 and then gone from the top 10. Four weeks, domestic total 180 million to 220 million.

Movies seem to depend more on domestic for sequels but that has been changing.

Domestic: $84,208,000 81.0% (five days)
+ Foreign: $19,800,000 19.0%
---------------------------------
= Worldwide: $104,008,000

The large part with your arguement here is the amount of markets it opened internationaly versus how many theaters it opened in domestically. I can guarantee those numbers are misleading as it did not open in a lot of foriegn markets yet. A big movie like this will last longer than 4 weeks in the top ten. What other big movie is there besides Pirates? Your assuming people will flock to see what other huge blockbusters this summer beyond these two?