Klaus
First Post
Maybe that kind of procedure was put in place between "wildfire" and "epidemic". Whatever "wildfire" was, it happened about 4 months before the zombie apocalypse.
The Walking Dead
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Think "wildfire" is a hot spot (infected zone/outbreak) that went out of control and jumped containment. Once, it jumped "epidemic" was the next step, local then global, then it becomes a "pandemic".
I'm pretty sure Madagascar closed down everything, so they're safe.
Klaus
First Post
As I recall, the term "Wildfire" from Andromeda Strain referred to a highly infectious and dangerous viral outbreak.
Epidemic and Pandemic is what the CDC calls the swine flu virus that gives you a normal flue and has the usual contagion rates and outcomes.
Wildfire is what you call a virus that rapidly spreads and kills 99% of the population and is running loose in the public, like a wildfire.
Sir Brennen
Legend
To be fair, they might have planned it so they had plenty of time to get to the CDC during daylight hours and been able to retreat to a safe spot should it turn into a dead end, if the RV hadn't broken down on the way there, throwing the timetable off.
In a bit of TWD news, the writing staff of season one has been fired. Though not confirmed yet, sounds like they may be going with freelancers for the second season. Some commentary here: Why dumping Walking Dead's writing staff might be a GOOD thing
I am puzzled by the notion that going to the CDC would be considered a stupid idea.
What I do find less than credible is the casual abandon with which these guys will splatter infected blood and guts all over the place without trying to keep it off them. They don't protect their hands or mouths when they're hacking and chopping up bodies. They don't even turn their heads away or pucker their lips reflexively. I started to take note of this back in the second episode, when everyone needlessly huddled around close and watched while the bodies were chopped up with an axe to make the zombie suits.
What I do find less than credible is the casual abandon with which these guys will splatter infected blood and guts all over the place without trying to keep it off them. They don't protect their hands or mouths when they're hacking and chopping up bodies. They don't even turn their heads away or pucker their lips reflexively. I started to take note of this back in the second episode, when everyone needlessly huddled around close and watched while the bodies were chopped up with an axe to make the zombie suits.
FoxWander
Adventurer
Yeah, they are kind of unconcerned about infection or catching "the zombie bug" (or whatever it is they think makes dead people start walking again), but it's odd that you mention that particular scene because that was the only time when they did take precautions. They all put on gloves and those smock-things. Rick even says to make sure they don't get any on their skin or in their eyes. And then after that they completely forget about such things. 
Oh, and one more things about their trip to the CDC and the lack of planning involved. Putting aside their stupidity just with bringing the whole clan along on this scenic trip into zombie central- why did everyone have to get out of the vehicles to go check the doors when they got there?!? Couldn't just a couple of them gone out to do that while everyone else stayed in the relative safety of an enclosed vehicle. You know, maybe with the engine running so the few that got out could just run back, jump in, and they all take off if things start to go bad.
And did they even consider that they were taking a bunch of noncombatants into a veritable mine-field of tripping hazards? Dramatic-tension laws dictate that if the group has to run then the most vulnerable people WILL TRIP on something. And at the worst possible time. Yet there they are- with kids and unarmed meat snacks- surrounded by unpredictable terrain. Not to mention the inevitable assumed-dead-body-that-suddenly-grabs-your-ankle trick! It's as if they not only have no awareness of zombie movies, but they've never seen a horror movie ever! Cause the dead body that grabs you suddenly is the oldest trick in the book.
Oh, and one more things about their trip to the CDC and the lack of planning involved. Putting aside their stupidity just with bringing the whole clan along on this scenic trip into zombie central- why did everyone have to get out of the vehicles to go check the doors when they got there?!? Couldn't just a couple of them gone out to do that while everyone else stayed in the relative safety of an enclosed vehicle. You know, maybe with the engine running so the few that got out could just run back, jump in, and they all take off if things start to go bad.
And did they even consider that they were taking a bunch of noncombatants into a veritable mine-field of tripping hazards? Dramatic-tension laws dictate that if the group has to run then the most vulnerable people WILL TRIP on something. And at the worst possible time. Yet there they are- with kids and unarmed meat snacks- surrounded by unpredictable terrain. Not to mention the inevitable assumed-dead-body-that-suddenly-grabs-your-ankle trick! It's as if they not only have no awareness of zombie movies, but they've never seen a horror movie ever! Cause the dead body that grabs you suddenly is the oldest trick in the book.
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Yeah, but they didn't protect their faces, and they didn't need protection at all if the ones not doing the chopping just moved away. Instead, they basically stood virtually on top of the mess.
The impression I got was that they really wasn't any turning back. They'd banked everything on the CDC's viability, and used up enough gas that they weren't getting out of the city before dark. Also, I also get the impression that walker hordes aren't an ever-present threat as they are in the zombie flicks. In an open parking lot, it's not going to be like "Poof! Horde!"
Ah, but there is a subtle difference that sets these zombies apart from all others, and its a very dangerous difference: they go quiescent.
In all other zombie fiction I can think of except the movie Shock Waves, zombies are more or less in constant motion. This makes them visible.
In contrast, these zombies will occasionally "rest", which means you can walk right by one and not notice until it's chasing you down- we've seen this a few times, especially in the streets, as dormant ones clamber out of busses and cars to attack the living.
So while there doesn't seem to be the risk of "Poof, Horde!" (a phrase that requires careful punctuation), there is always the risk of one or more undetected ones popping up wherever he dead may be found.
In a sense, it's like submarines hunting a convoy. They don't need a Sherriff, they need a Navy officer!
In all other zombie fiction I can think of except the movie Shock Waves, zombies are more or less in constant motion. This makes them visible.
In contrast, these zombies will occasionally "rest", which means you can walk right by one and not notice until it's chasing you down- we've seen this a few times, especially in the streets, as dormant ones clamber out of busses and cars to attack the living.
So while there doesn't seem to be the risk of "Poof, Horde!" (a phrase that requires careful punctuation), there is always the risk of one or more undetected ones popping up wherever he dead may be found.
In a sense, it's like submarines hunting a convoy. They don't need a Sherriff, they need a Navy officer!
Remus Lupin
Adventurer
I don't know why, but the expression "Poof! Horde!" keeps making me chuckle.
Klaus
First Post
In the comic
there are two types of zombies. The "walkers" will constantly walk about towards the last thing that caught its attention. If it hears a gunshot to the north, it will walk to the north until something else catches its attention. Then there are the "lurkers", which lay mostly dormant until a human gets close. After the human moves a few paces back, the lurker will return to dormancy
Now that was a stupid ending -
get into the CDC only to have it blow up. It was bad enough they made the place Umbrella, with voice computer but to blow it up after they got there; dumb.
Remus Lupin
Adventurer
Gotta wonder what the scientist guy whispered in his ear near the end there. A lead on a place to go?
I though the "oh God we're all gonna die" part of their dillemma was well acted and convincing, though the situation was contrived. Why let them in in the first place, if only to die with you less than a day later? And would the CDC really only have backup power for a month if they were going to run that much power-draining high tech gear? A sensible backup system should have lasted at least a year at full capacity, not a month with one guy. It's sure as hell a good thing he told the kids not to fire up the wii console!
But again, the show's about the characters, and the characters were convincing, from Shane's drunken meltdown to Jaqui's decision to stay and be incinerated. The show's only worth watching if the Zombie mayhem is the circumstance under which genuine character development takes place, and on this score it was done well. I don't see things ending well for Shane though. But I suppose as things stand right now, it's not ending well for any of them.
I though the "oh God we're all gonna die" part of their dillemma was well acted and convincing, though the situation was contrived. Why let them in in the first place, if only to die with you less than a day later? And would the CDC really only have backup power for a month if they were going to run that much power-draining high tech gear? A sensible backup system should have lasted at least a year at full capacity, not a month with one guy. It's sure as hell a good thing he told the kids not to fire up the wii console!
But again, the show's about the characters, and the characters were convincing, from Shane's drunken meltdown to Jaqui's decision to stay and be incinerated. The show's only worth watching if the Zombie mayhem is the circumstance under which genuine character development takes place, and on this score it was done well. I don't see things ending well for Shane though. But I suppose as things stand right now, it's not ending well for any of them.
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Maybe that the pathogen is airborne. Or that despite that these people are your friends, if zombies are chasing you, trip one of them.
I suppose we won't find out for a long time.
LightPhoenix
First Post
Utterly pointless. If they didn't know what synapses were, what possible usable information did they really think they were going to get? Blah.
Didn't really care if Building Code Lady stayed; I still don't even know her name. For a second, I actually thought the show might kill Andrea and Dale, so I guess that was well-played.
I hope Key Dropper doesn't take the place of Tyrese in the show. For one thing, I don't know his name either.
For the record, what Jenner most likely told Rick (fairly major spoiler):
Didn't really care if Building Code Lady stayed; I still don't even know her name. For a second, I actually thought the show might kill Andrea and Dale, so I guess that was well-played.
I hope Key Dropper doesn't take the place of Tyrese in the show. For one thing, I don't know his name either.
For the record, what Jenner most likely told Rick (fairly major spoiler):
Everyone is infected with the zombie virus, even those who aren't bitten. Anyone who dies, almost no matter how, becomes a zombie. Zombie bites only cause the fever, which then kills you.
Ahnehnois
First Post
The "science" part of it was nonsense, but that's pretty much par for the course. They didn't seem to define "syanpse" accurately, and the imaging is not reflective of any real technology I'm aware of.
That aside, it was a dramatic conclusion and gives the show a good kickoff point for whenever it starts up again.
That aside, it was a dramatic conclusion and gives the show a good kickoff point for whenever it starts up again.
dravot
First Post
The doctor was whacked, in his own way. He had accepted death, and preferred going out in the explosion to anything on the outside. He assumed that Rick and company would agree.
From what the doctor said, the CDC was set to protect itself against an act of terrorism - I doubt that they would have expected the place to be self-sustaining for more than a day or two.
Krug
Newshound
Ending just felt rather meh. OK let them in then shove them out again. Scientist guy turning crazy? Uhhuh and the explosion seemed rather convenient... again. I'm guessing he told Rick
My main gripe that it was this episode was almost done to undo the last ep, so most of it was a waste of time.
his wife's pregnant.
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