Theandric: Journeyman

Valeria turns to face Gasparius directly, smiling at him in an almost patronizing manner, though there is a hint of compassion, not scorn, in her eyes.

"Dear, beautiful Gasparius, you must, of course, be used to the games of power that take place within the walls of Fengheld, and though I have only heard stories of its machinations, I can imagine how you might have been influenced during your years of apprenticeship there. But Fengheld is a large and powerful covenant, perhaps requiring such complexities of rule and leadership, whereas Teneo... well, we are not so complex.... not yet, anyway. Perhaps one day we, too, shall be as mighty as Fengheld, and surely our charter will grow and evolve to reflect the changing needs of the covenant, but for now, at this, the birth of Teneo, a central authoritarian figure could prove detrimental."

She then begins to address the magi as a whole, looking from one to another as she makes her points.

"We are four magi, newly Gauntleted and, obstinsibly, equal in knowledge and power, though, undoubtedly, we each bring differing strengths and weaknesses to Teneo. Though we may individually differ on various issues as to how best to serve Teneo, guided by wisdom and logic, I am confident we, as a council, will reach the best decisions. Obviously a unanimouos vote on all decisions would be unrealistic and impracticle, and I do not propose such be the guiding principle of our oath, but most certainly a three-fourths majority can be expected to settle matters of importance without call for any one of us to be given undue authority over the others, or weighing one person's vote more highly than anothers."

Valeria pauses a moment to take a breath, before continuing.

"In our situation, with only four magi to determine the fate and destiny of Teneo, it is imperative that each magus contribute to the best of his abilities, in matters both magical and mundane, and it is equally imperative that no magus's opinion, insight, or vote be undermined. Should an issue come before the council that leaves us, as Gasparius says, deadlocked, that would mean that two of us are in disagreement with the other two. I say that an issue that splits the council so is one worthy of further discussions... of greater investigation... perhaps, even, of external advice... but it is not," she says, stressing the 'not', "one that should be decided in the favor of any single one of us."

"To grant veto power to any one of us would nullify the entire democratic process within Teneo." She looks to Gasparius again. "You seek a means to decide a tie vote, believing a three-fourths majority and unrealistic expectation, but you would, in fact, be establishing just the opposite." Once again she addresses the magi as a whole. "Were one of us to wield the power of veto, that person would indeed be able to break any deadlocked decisions, but that person would also have a greater influence on all covenant decisions. That person would only require one consenting vote amongst three to dominate the other members of the covenant. More importantly, as any single consenting vote would enforce that person's position, it would therefore require the united opposition from all three other members - aye, the very three-fourths majority you feel is unacceptable in deciding matters to begin with - it would take that three-fourths vote to stand against any wielder of veto."

"Shall that be the democracy that marks Teneo... that three must stand against one to thwart authoritarianism?"

Valeria lets the question hang in the air for a moment as she looks to each magus in turn.

"Sodales, I do not say these things because I fear any one of us has such ambitions for power, or that we consciously abuse such power were it granted to it, but the simple fact of the matter is that establishing the basis for such a power establishes a precendent for totalitarianism... or worse, anarchy!"

"Nay, we magi of Teneo can decide matters in council without need for a strong arm. It is my belief that most issues that come before us will be decided unanimously, but, lacking unanimous consent, it is worthy to sacrifice the will of one in favor of the will of three. Should a decision be so tenuous that a three-fourths majority cannot be reached, then that issue should not be decided, but should continue to be discussed until such conditions, arguments, conssessions, or agreements can be made with which to establish the three-fourths majority."

Valeria finally looks back to Gasparius.

"Gasparius, as I have said, we need no central authority amongst us, but ponder this: if you believe that one amongst us has the wisdom and logic to decide where others cannot, then surely that person would have the wisdom and logic to sway the votes necessary for his position. If the position is worthy, surely two amongst us can be made to see is as so and to vote in consent, accordingly."

She turns back to all the magi.

"I digress, however, my friends. For the sake of our initial binding oath, the three-fourths majority must stand. In the establishment of the covenant charter, however, should any amongst us still favor a veto power, provisions for such could still be brought before the council, where upon a three-fourths vote would establish it as law."
 
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Volkmar organizes an expedition

Soon after the magi sequester themselves in private with the Redcap, Volkmar begins to organize an expedition to venture into the surrounding lands. Earlier that morning, the last group of grogs and covenfolk arrive, driving the repaired wagon with Valeria's personal belongings as well as a few additional supplies from Durenmar. Volkmar quicky assigns tasks to all and contemplates how each may best be utilized.

Volkmar briefly conferred with Valeria and Titus prior to their seclusion, and, being apprised of the previous night's discussions, is thus able to establish the expectations for the expedition, and ultimately determine an optimal distribution of grogs and covenfolk.

Of primary concern, of course, is the Faerie stag, its whereabouts, and its motivations. For this, it is imperative that a magus be involved in the expedition. This of course necessitates adequate escort to insure the safety of the magus, or magi, as the case may be, though the decision as to who specifically shall go has yet been made. Still, the lives of the magi can not be trusted to any less than custos. In the hopes that the beast has left tracks that may be followed, Volkmar has selected the young archer to attend the magi, as well.

Of secondary importance is to develop a knowledge of the local area. Any outstanding features, as well as the demeanor of the local villages must be determined. For this, Volkmar shall recommend that the elder Mattius attend the expedition. He seems the most knowledgeable of the local area and should be able to assist in negotiating supplies from the peasant villagers.

Finally, the defense of the covenant itself and the magi who remain behind cannot be compromised, so some militant grogs will have to remain behind. The lack of combat-trained grogs is of concern to Volkmar. That is an issue that will have to be remedied soon.

Volkmar considers having the cook assemble enough provisions for a five day expedition.


NOTE: See the OOC thread for additional notes on the expedition.
 
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Titus respectfully listens to Valeria's speech to Gasparius, and even nods slowly in agreement to most of her key points. However, his knitted brow reveals his deep thoughts on the issues.

"Well spoken Valeria. As a student of mundane history-- that of the old Greeks is a particular favorite-- I can certainly appreciate your support of forming a govenrment based on the demos, a democracy if you will. Such a government has proven to be admirably suited to many situations. However, with due respect, I must question if that is the best for Teneo.

"I do not question that we magi are equals and should treat each other as such. However, there will be more to running this covenant than our dealings together. As we have just discussed, we must deal with many outside forces; our neighboring covenant that already seems jealous of us, and the unpredictable mundane and fairy inhabitants of nearby forest and village. To these potential... rivals, we must present a united front. A democracy, requiring a vote on many issues, is a noble concept, but I believe that it could potentially paralyze us in making some decisions, perhaps delaying an important decision that could spell doom on us. That is why I truly believe that we must elect a leader of the covenant, one who can not only show diplomacy in our dealings as equals in the order of Hermes, but who can also deal effectively with our neighbors.

"I would like to volunteer for this post, and to explain why I think I am best qualified. First and foremost, I believe that I will be the most effective in dealing with our mundane neighbors. I grew up surrounded by human politics as my father was a diplomat. I've also studied mundane history in great detail. And, while I myself would never judge a book by its cover, I believe that with all due respect, you three may have some challenges in dealing with mundanes. Gasparius, you are indeed handsome and could fit into human society, but, having been raised by faeries, do you truly understand mundane behavior? Gorgamesh, your magic is strong and you are wise in many things, but I'm afraid that many humans may find your appearance... um... a bit horrifying. And finally, Lady Valeria, well, as a woman, frankly, you may not always be taken as seriously by certain mundanes who do not know of your great intellect and magical skills. I would never suggest that any of these prejudices influence our dealings as fellow magus, but I have seen these predjudices at work many times in dealing with mundanes.

"As for our dealings with other covenants, you said yourself that Fengheld is a covenant of intrigue. I am well known there and have many relationships that will help us continue to receive support there. I am ready to put the skills my masters have taught me to work in winning our rightful magical inheritance whereever we find it. My master Stentorius has communicated his vision for this convent, and I feel that it is my mission to make sure we remain focused on achieving the goals he has set forth for us.

"Please be assured that I mean no insult to any of you by my comments, and I do not think the position of leading this convent will mean becoming a Caesar over you all. But I truly believe that appointing a leader will make Teneo stronger. If you wish, , we can make the position one that we re-examine periodically and re-affirm with a new council vote if you will.... perhaps every year or two?

"What say you all?"
 

Quick reactions of the grogs

by afternoon you shall have sufficient food for 7 days, I'll salt it up for you and ration meat, bread and some dried fruits, I'll instruct you how find and recognize eatable mushrooms and forest berries as well.
Says Rodolf to Volkmar and goes to fulfill his duties.
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I'll stay here and continue to build.
remarks Hans the Carpenter to Volkmar.
I need only one man to stay with me and help me and Old Magd is not the person.
he smiles and continue.
maybe young Baldermar, beside it, I can raise an axe if needed and protect the life of the honorable magi that stays behind.
he tapps on his hand axe that hangs on his belt.
I'll back to work then.
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Malloc(name of troubador and my companion) says to Volkmar loud enough for the magi to hear also.
I'll join the expedition!
He then lowers his voice and says to Volkmar.
I'll bring my flute for amusment and my dagger for safty
his look turns more serious
How dangerous you think it will be?
Malloc knew Volkmar,
Valeria and Gorgamesh since he have been hired to be a bard in Durenmar, singing and musing the magi in the night from time to time, every magi knew him, Although he didn't spoke directly to Volkmar, he recognized the big man instantly.
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Gorgamesh

Listen to his folks, tired Gorgamesh sits on the folding wooden chair that Hans build for him yesterday.
My fellow magus, both of you are right and I agree with your suggestions.
But I think we can find a way in the middle.


he look at Titus and Gasparius and say
as Valeria said, We are four magi and equal in knowledge and power, although everyone master in a diffrent domain. I think the right decision is that three-fourths majority can be expected to settle matters of importance without any internal conflict, but...

He turns to Valeria
Titus's point is the most reasonable, we must present a united front and elect a leader, we must not differ from the other covenants.
But I suggest not to elect a leader to the whole covenant, I rather suggest to appoint each of us a role or a task in Teneo.


he then turns to all the magi
Surely Titus is the most fitting from all of us to deal with the humans, pagans, the church and the political issues with other covenants.
And I guess Gasparius's experience with the fairy make him suitable to deal with the fey folk and the other magical powers of the land around us.
As for me, I have nothing to offer to the covenant in outside realtion. but I can control the divine and deal with our magic problem, I could be in charge on the library.
As for Lady Valeria, she can be in charge on the stocks of our raw vis and the internal affairs of the covenant and thru Volkmar control the grogs.
But I think we should discuss it and appoint every magus to a task by a vote like lady Valeria suggested.


He looks at everybody and continue
As for our oath, it can be simple one for now, as to introduce the task of every magus and to explain our vote system for now.
we can examine our structure and discuss about it every two seasons from now.
 
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The redcap, still pouting, rises from her chair. "Perhaps, as Valeria suggested, you would like to discuss such matters alone. I shall give you what privacy I can. When you have decided what to send in reply, or if you wish to send any other message, I'll be around there" she points to her shelter, "recupurating. If there is nothing more..."
The redcap retires.

Gasparius is thinking about the arguments, trying to make out his mind.
 

Valeria watches coldly as the Redcap dismisses herself from the assembly. After she has departed, Valeria mutters to no one in particular, "I understand why the Order deemed it wise to bestow equal rights upon those Mercere, but the arrogance of those mundanes is infuriating."

She returns her attention to the magi, almost unaware that it had wandered.

"Dear sodales, already our combined wisdom becomes manifest," she says, giving Gorgamesh a slight bow of acknowledgement. "Perhaps my concern has not been clear. My concern is with the governance of the covenant as an entity, and with the rights and authority of the magi in council, not with day-to-day functionality. Indeed, noble Titus," she continues, this time acknowledging Titus, "a leader - though I use that term loosely - to handle the day-to-day affairs of the covenant may very well be a necessity. Or even, as Gorgamesh mentions, each of us may be called upon to serve individual and specific functions. I am sure that none amongst us desires our valuable time, better suited to research and study, be absorbed with constant politicking and debate, having to decide every minor issue that comes before the covenant. On the contrary, I anticipate that we would desire formal councils no more frequent than once a season. Emergency councils and informal gatherings will occur where they will, but for the day-to-day... mundane... tasks, a leader would be wise. But that leader's power, authority, and responsibilites must derive from the council, not despite it."

"Nay, sodales, such a leader would be granted authority by the council to make decisions for the benefit of the covenant, but such authority should not be at the expense of his fellow magi. Outside of council, he may be called to make immediate decisions for issues that cannot wait the convenience of a council meeting, but within council that leader's vote should carry no more weight than any other member. I dare say, that perhaps it would be wiser that such a leader have a lesser voice in council, that his decisions should be subject to the greater scrutiny of his peers, but I do not advocate weakening the influence of any member of our council."

"Titus," Valeria says, looking at the magus, "I do not doubt that you may best be suited for dealing with matters mundane, or even perhaps with our fellow magi and covenants of the Order, but should that aptitude dictate that your voice carry greater weight at Teneo. Are we to say that the only vision for Teneo is Titus's vision? Of course not, nor do I believe that was the intent of your words. I speak thus merely to serve a point. If you desire this responsibility and priviledge, then such can be granted by the council, but it should not be an inherent endowment."

Returning her attention to all the magi, she continues:

"Sodales, it is the very complexity of these issues that demand we establish a charter. Such issues cannot be decided with a mere oath of allegiance. We must, as a council, forge the charter that therein outlines the rights and authority granted to any leader figure, not the other way around. If we arbitrarily impose a leader above us, without a charter to bind him, we are effectively granting that leader the authority to draft any charter as he sees fit, and we would be subject to his whim, for if his vote outweights our own, we would be forced to bring a united front to resist him."

"Titus," she says, once again addressing him directly, "your points are valid, from a particular point of view, but I see no merit in them to suggest that, within council, your vote - or that of any chosen leader - should outweigh that of any other magus. In fact, some of your words disturb me, and force me to think that your vote not only should not - but must not - outweigh our own."

"You reference your strong ties with Fengheld and your understanding of their ways. This is of worth to Teneo, of course, and we undoubtedly owe a debt of gratitude to both Fengheld and Durenmar. But you futher mention your familiarity with your master Stentorius's vision for Teneo. Is there one amongst us that does not know of Fengheld's original intent for Teneo? Such plans were altered by Durenmar's involvement in this endeavor, were they not?"

"Sodales," Valeria stresses, "I say to you all, and let there be no confusion, that any oath we take here today will bind ourselves to each other and to Teneo first and foremost, superceding all other oaths and allegiances save that to the Code of Hermes itself. Teneo is no chapter house of Fengheld."
 
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Gorgamesh

Valeria's words are wise, I must agree with her.
says Gorgamesh with firm voice and bows slighty to her.
I here by call for us to forge a charter, Our scriber should forge it on the first night of full moon, we shall all gather in the stone circle and take an oath.
He eyes Titus and Gasparius
What say you noble magi ?
 

Titus listens to Lady Valeria, this time his face is dispassionate and shows no emotion, nor does he nod in agreement with her statements. He listens to Gorgamesh as well, but impatiently. He obviously is eager to respond to Lady Valeria.

"I'm afraid you have misunderstood me completely, Lady Valeria, and your comment that my words disturb you cut me to the quick. Teneo is to be independant, I never suggested otherwise. I spoke frankly about what I think will be best for Teneo, not Fenghold or Durnemar, but Teneo. I am ready to take an oath of total allegiance to this covenant, which could include strong wording that would sever my ties with Fengheld.

"I spoke of my qualifications for leader of this covenant, not as an inheritance, but in light of the facts as I see them. I welcome counter-point to any of my observations. I also did not suggest that the position of leader of this covenant would be absolute, but should be limited by time at the very least. I wholeheartedly agree that a council for discussion, a senate if you will, would be an excellent addition to our covenant's charter.

"What disturbs me, Lady Valeria, is it seems I am to be penalized in your mind for my loyalty and respect to a figure, nay a master magus, who was influentual in my formative years as an apprentice. Let us be honest with one another. Until we are established, we will need allies wherever we can find them. By your words, I could infer that you have something against working with Fengheld, who provided the lion's share of material that allows us to establish this covenant. Surely they will not abandon their investment in this place, and even as an independant covenant we can benefit from associating with them?

"I sensed venom in your last words. What do you have against Fengheld? We must work through this prejudice that you might have before we can unite in a new undertaking and build a truly independant covenant. Tell me, does Durenmar have a vision for what this place should be? Do you?"

To Gorgamesh, he nods. "While I am willing to take an oath to Teneo now, on this very spot, perhaps we must establish a charter that we all agree to first?"
 

Mattihus introduces himself to Volkmar

As Volkmar organizes the exploratory expedition, old Mattihus hears that he is to be considered to join the party. "Although I'm not as spry as I once was," he thinks, "I should be able to keep up with them, though I hope we'll be able to stop and rest occasionally..."

Mattihus approaches the giant Volkmar with deference and respect. Although his head is bowed, he sneaks glances at Volkmar's armor, and even at his metal-covered face. "Ahh, the secrets behind that marvelous armor..." he thinks. "I must crack the shell... but all in good time...."

He speaks in the most polite German he can muster. "Excuse me, Master Volkmar, I understand that you may wish me to accompany you on your expedition to explore the local countryside. I would be honored to join you and lend my services. You see, I've lived in this area for my entire life, and I've heard a great many things about the Black Stag that attacked the poor woman... though until last night I've not had the displeasure of actually seeing it, oh no...."

He shifts uncomfortably from foot to foot, and continues. "If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion... there is a certain village nearby, on the edge of the wood, that may bear some investigation. Now, I don't know for certain, but folks say that it's a heathen village. All I do know is I haven't seen any folk from there at Mass, ever. They do come into town every so often, though, and once I actually met their leader, fellow by the name of... hm... Roch the Old, I think it what it was. Didn't like him one bit. Sneaky... smelled like, well, I'd rather not say. They ran him and his people out of town, sayin' he was a cheat at the market. Come to think of it, most folk in our town don't like those wood folk much, but it could be jealousy. They always seem to have a decent harvest, even though, from what I've heard, they haven't much in the way of plowed fields and such..."

Mattihus bows several times as he takes his leave. "Anyway... please pardon my interruption. I'll be getting out of your way, you must be very busy. I'll make ready to depart immediately."
 

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