What a round-about way of insinuating that I am a liar.
Your indignation here is unwarranted and consequently an unfair tactic. Unless I'm mistaken, you already said that you lied. In fact, you said it was ok that you lied sometimes. So by your definition you've already called yourself a liar (which I actually don't think because i don't share your definition). I was talking about a subject that you started when you brought yourself into it. So my "insinuation" was largely just repeating what you already told me, coupled with some pretty basic logic.
If I claimed to lie about A from time to time, and I then held myself up as a source of information about how often A occurs, I think it would be reasonable to be skeptical about that. I see no reason for you to be insulted in this case.
You keep saying that. Could you explain what you mean. Or maybe this was done earlier in the thread? I must have missed it if so.
It's a fair question but a mammoth task if you're upset about me insulting you. A beginning of the answer would involve reading the section on "saying yes" (page 28) and contrasting that against the advice given in the quoted section.
I never claimed that no one agreed with you. Just that you have not provided any proof of anything, besides an opinion, which some people in this thread happen to share.
That seems reasonable. But I think there are grounds for my opinion that make it a little more substantial than "I like the color blue." Some opinions are more subject to principles and consistency than others.
Point was that you said that a lot of people agreed with you. Fine. I just thought I would at least mention 3 people with a lot of experience as a DM and who disagree with you. You claim that JW's advice is bad, as if it was an universal truth - it's not.
Ok, fair enough. I think the DM in the example was dishonest. I think that's an opinion we both share, but still just an opinion. I think that the DM in the example was making a poor decision. That's not an opinion we both share, but that's an opinion too. I think the reasoning for why it was a poor decision and bad DMing is actually given in the DMG itself. But even if that is true, it's just opinions expressed in the DMG, so it's just an opinion ultimately. I can't prove to you objectively that not being honest with your players, or even people in general, is a bad thing.
You attempts at insulting me are really bad.
Look you're either honestly insulted in which case I have to apologize for something that I didn't intend. But I've already dealt with a similar issue earlier in the thread when certain folks attempted to manufacture false indignation at some supposed insult I directed at JW. Even though they pretty much misunderstood what I said (or intentionally mischaracterized it, only they know). So please consider the possibility that you're misinterpreting this. This applies to the above case as well.
Of course I do not care where the advice comes from. Good advice is good no matter from who it comes. Same with bad advice.
I was reacting to your continued mention of Gary Gygax without ever stating what you thought it was that he said that was relevant to the subject. I note what you're saying here, but my impression before was from what you were saying (or, actually, not saying) and not intended as malicious.
Anyway, I am out as well.
We've probably always been.