D&D (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

[Charlaquin]

HERE
"With the Hide action, you try to conceal yourself. To do so, you must succeed on a DC 15 Dexterity (Stealth) check while you’re Heavily Obscured or behind Three-Quarters Cover or Total Cover, and you must be out of any enemy’s line of sight; if you can see a creature, you can discern whether it can see you."

That doesn’t say anything about facing…

If there is no facing, how can "if you can see a creature, you can discern whether it can see you."
If there is no facing the when you can see them the they can see you.

Yes, correct.

No decerning possible without facing.

That doesn’t follow. You don’t need a facing rule to be able to see a creature, therefore you don’t need a facing rule to be able to discern whether it can see you.

Now where is it written there is no facing?

It doesn’t need to be, any more than it needs to be written that you can’t shoot the moon with an arrow. If a rule is not written in the books, it does not exist.

 

[KYRON45]

Also you're moving the goalposts from facing doesn't exist in the game to show me a specific rule about facing.

No one moved the post. If you can show us the rule on how facings work, we'll use it.

 

[kayakingpoodle]

Can you point to the rules in the 2024 books on facing?

Post 359

 

[kayakingpoodle]

Now that that is done back to the topic at hand.

 

[KYRON45]

Post 359

Does post 359 have a book title and page number?

 

[Selas]

Post 359

But that's not facing rules, that's just using line of sight rules. Proper facing rules are absent in 2024 so far, and we're available on page 252 of the 2014 DMG. When we talk about facing, that's what we mean

 

[kayakingpoodle]

Does post 359 have a book title and page number?

It has a link the the 24 phb on DDB, I don't own a physical copy. Feeding y'all is getting tedious.

 

[kayakingpoodle]

But that's not facing rules, that's just using line of sight rules. Proper facing rules are absent in 2024 so far, and we're available on page 252 of the 2014 DMG. When we talk about facing, that's what we mean

I guess I will need the definition you are using for facing.

 

[Charlaquin]

I guess I will need the definition you are using for facing.

A rule that defines what direction a creature is facing

 

[KYRON45]

It has a link the the 24 phb on DDB, I don't own a physical copy. Feeding y'all is getting tedious.

Not all of us have access to the digital version of the book. Pardon us.