THREE elven races, plus half-elves ... but they say gnomes have no niche?!

[Hussar]

Hussar: you should have put gnomes in that poll as well.

And they aren't doing that bad. About the same as Half-Elves.

I never said they are the most popular race. Just not that unpopular.

But even the existence of these two polls is more then a meh response. As is all of your posting.

Heh. I'm one of the few who actually plays a gnome.

I'm thinking that "all this posting" is more the result of a few people who just like to argue.

 

[TerraDave]

But wait, read my edit above...(so someone will)

 

[Hussar]

EDIT: I will give a counterexample of "meh": Vancian Magic, take all the threads and heated arguments on that...oh wait....there are none. Or the Half Orc. Or Abjuration specialists. Or Pelor....Even the chance that classes like the Druid and Barbarian won't be in the PHB I has gotten less of a response.

Half orc isn't in the PHB?

As far as I know, the Barbarian is still in the book?

Pelor? Are you kidding? While maybe not specifically Pelor, there are more than a few threads discussing the new lineup of dieties on the front page right now.

 

[Crazy Jerome]

I'm actually one of the people that has been "meh" on the Gnome, heretofore. I don't like tech in my magical fantasy. I don't like "comic races". I have players that want to play something they envision as a gnome, but they don't want tech or comic races, either. (In fact, the couple of times that someone wanted to slip in some tech, they thought a dwarf was more appropriate--as do I.)

The possibility of using eladrin at half height, with a name change, is the first time I've been excited about gnomes, and is exactly what my gnome players were looking for in the past.

 

[Klaus]

I'm actually one of the people that has been "meh" on the Gnome, heretofore. I don't like tech in my magical fantasy. I don't like "comic races". I have players that want to play something they envision as a gnome, but they don't want tech or comic races, either. (In fact, the couple of times that someone wanted to slip in some tech, they thought a dwarf was more appropriate--as do I.)

The possibility of using eladrin at half height, with a name change, is the first time I've been excited about gnomes, and is exactly what my gnome players were looking for in the past.

I agree. As soon as you include a "tinkerer" niche, the setting veers sharply towards Steampunk. And while I love Eberron and Warcraft (never played WoW), not all settings are Eberron and Warcraft.

So making eladrin small and using that for a gnome is full of win in my book.

 

[Crazy Jerome]

As a bonus, this becomes easy: How to pronounce eladrin

You pronounce it "(g)nome".

Hmm, the tiefling/draenei linkage comments gave me an idea, too. I could replace tieflings with the Arcana Evolved/Ptolus verrik. Then I've got a campaign with viable humans, elves, dwarves, halfings, gnomes, and one off-beat race (that I can stomach) for the players that want to be non-traditional. You could do worse for running an old-style D&D game in 4E.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm thinking that "all this posting" is more the result of a few people who just like to argue.

Have you read the posts? Most of the people upset are people who play gnomes and want to continue playing a fully fleshed out player race, instead of "in lieu of a long player write-up, here's info about your lair and your minions."

(Who's my little minion? Who's my little minion? Kissy noises.)

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Half orc isn't in the PHB?

As far as I know, the Barbarian is still in the book?

No and no. Nor are druids, it looks like.

The half-orc barbarian druid lobby has been strangely silent. (Of course, as barbarians, they can't read, so that might explain it.)

 

[GreatLemur]

That argument doesn't really wash well with me. As Psionics are more science than fantasy.

On behalf of science, I am offended by this statement.

 

[fuindordm]

The half-orc barbarian druid lobby has been strangely silent. (Of course, as barbarians, they can't read, so that might explain it.)

They've been hard at work handing out informative pamphlets...

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0132.html

(This thread needs a chuckle)