Tiefling as a core race?

[Xyxox]

All right then.

4E Houserule #1: No tieflings.

And so it begins...

I wonder how a DM will be able to eliminate core races on the D&D Insider Tabletop?

 

[Remathilis]

I wonder how a DM will be able to eliminate core races on the D&D Insider Tabletop?

I assume you can set up a "campaign" component for those using the Tabletop which restricts (for your games) races, classes, feats, spells, etc. Shouldn't be too hard...

 

[ThirdWizard]

I assume you can set up a "campaign" component for those using the Tabletop which restricts (for your games) races, classes, feats, spells, etc. Shouldn't be too hard...

I'd think it would work the same way as it always has. "Don't do X." And then when someone does X "I told you not to do X. Remake the character while we play and you can jump in when you're done."

 

[psionotic]

Half-Elves are in...

In the final version of 4th Edition, most of your racial traits come into play right out of the gate at 1st level—dwarven resilience, elven evasion, a half-elf’s inspiring presence, and so on.

From the dndinsider: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drdd/20070816a

 

[crazy_cat]

Are golems gaining sentience really more world shaking than demons banging all the peasent girls?

I really don't know.

Now that really is a question that needs answering

 

[Mistwell]

I suspect we will have core races tied to each of the abilities. One each for Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Chr. And that Tieflings just fit one of those better than the race that was eliminated.

 

[Kesh]

Less Tolkienesque can be achieved without the implied setting assumption that demons are "all up in our business" sexually.

No one said it had to be sexual. Tieflings could easily be rebranded as the product of evil sorcerous experiments, blending humans with demons, who happened to break free of their masters and propagate the species on their own.

 

[WhatGravitas]

From the dndinsider: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drdd/20070816a

Well, if half-elves are in... then gnomes go? Or... half-orcs? I think tieflings fill the half-orc niche (sinister evil-race offspring) pretty well.

 

[The_Gneech]

D&D must change over time. Not just the rules, but the setting concepts. We can't stay trapped forever in the early-to-mid C20 time warp of REHoward, Lieber, Vance and Tolkien.

Well, I'd be happy to toss Vance and Tolkien if it would help...

-The Gneech

 

[GreatLemur]

Well, if half-elves are in... then gnomes go? Or... half-orcs? I think tieflings fill the half-orc niche (sinister evil-race offspring) pretty well.

They've got that basic concept in common, but I wouldn't really say they fill the same niche. Tieflings are sneaky and supernatural, while Half-Orcs are coarse and brutish.

Gnomes . . . I'm not really sure what their niche is, really. If they make it into 4E, I'm really hoping they get a serious revamp. Something to play up the whole "inherently magical" bit, I think.