D&D 5E Tired of doing WotC's job

[Greenstone.Walker]

Well, it has been a while since I've posted on Enworld. After 18 months of 5E, I think I am soon to be done with it.

Cool. Can I have your stuff?

Some questions arose:
is it magical? can you detect it with*detect magic*? if so, why can't you use dispel magic? is the target aware they are cursed? and so on.

To answer those questions: No. No. Because the only thing dispel magic does is stop currently-running spells. No - the first time the character is aware something is wrong with them is when they wake up naked in a ditch, covered in blood, and with ten hours of missing memory. "What have I done?"

…making up the rules and the systems for the game because they aren't there in the first place is just getting annoying IMO.

Yep, I feel your pain there. "Stealth". shudder

Your gear point is a good one. If a character wants to buy some clothes that would not embarrass them in at a Waterdhavian ball, how much will those cost? Who knows?

 

[Oofta]

Your gear point is a good one. If a character wants to buy some clothes that would not embarrass them in at a Waterdhavian ball, how much will those cost? Who knows?

Fine Clothes, cost 15 GP. Right there in the PHB.

There are legitimate complaints about all games, I just don't think this is one of them.

 

[Lanefan]

Because the only thing dispel magic does is stop currently-running spells.

Man have they ever nerfed that from its days of being able to take out scrolls, potions, and other minor magic items. How dull.

 

[pemerton]

Well, there is certainly a sweet spot for how many rules are enough. A game can be defined on a single page or less. You can go to the opposite end of the spectrum and require a bookshelf full of rules to run a game properly.

D&D 5E seems to have hit that sweet spot for a whole heck of a lot of people but there is no pleasing everyone.

I'd go back to the point that it is possible to enjoy multiple RPGs.

I enjoy 4e D&D. That's a mechanically complicated game - it has rather intricate combat rules, very intricate PC build rules, and even though it's non-combat resolution is simple in comparison, it can be influenced by many of those PC build elements.

I also enjoy Cthulhu Dark. The rules for that game fit on a single A4 sheet. A character is defined by an occupation (which is not chose from a list - you just say what your PC's job is) and a sanity rating that starts at 1 and has you out of the game if it reaches 6.

And there are a range of other games I enjoy too.

For me, what is more important than the length or complexity of a system's rules is how comprehensive they are (relative to genre and play expectations) and how effective they are. One reason the AD&D rules are long is that there are so many discrete subsystems dealing with doors, traps and treasure chests. 3E was notorious for having a discrete, long and complete system just for grappling.

Conversely, Cthulhu Dark uses the same resolution system for everything, and it can be described in less than a page.

 

[Maxperson]

PHB page 150:

Clothes, common 5 sp, 3 lb
Clothes, costume 5 gp, 4 lb
Clothes, fine 15 gp, 6 lb
Clothes, traveler's 2 gp, 4 lb
...
Robes 1 gp, 4 lb

Also, on page 157, in the Trade Goods section you can find that 1 square yard of linen costs 5 gp and 1 square yard of silk costs 10 gp.

I know it's not specifically a cloak, but I think you can made do with this info.

Apparently I will never have a PC become a clothing maker. It takes about 5 square yards of material to make a set of clothes, so it would take 25gp worth of linen to make 2gp traveler's clothes. That's a money maker!!

 

[Fenris-77]

Apparently I will never have a PC become a clothing maker. It takes about 5 square yards of material to make a set of clothes, so it would take 25gp worth of linen to make 2gp traveler's clothes. That's a money maker!!

It's impossible under the RAW anyway, there are no Tailor tools. There are Weaver's tools though, so maybe you can get in on the money end...

Even better, maybe come up with a linen-cotton blend and market it as linen, then you can take advantage of the 5sp/sq yd cost on cotton cloth and really make a killing.

 

[Mistwell]

3.x was very helpful in this regard with the use of Spell-like abilities and Supernatural abilities that explicitly spell out how they interact with detect magic, dispel magic, antimagic fields, etc.

And yet lycathropy had no listing like that in 3e either from my recollection and quick review

 

[Mistwell]

I seem to recall the playtest version of 5e said PCs could automatically afford any amount of mundane equipment. Essentially "You don't need the price of a cloak - if you want a cloak you just go get one."

 

[Guest 6801328]

Apparently I will never have a PC become a clothing maker. It takes about 5 square yards of material to make a set of clothes, so it would take 25gp worth of linen to make 2gp traveler's clothes. That's a money maker!!

Yeah but you make up for it volume.

 

[Guest 6801328]

I seem to recall the playtest version of 5e said PCs could automatically afford any amount of mundane equipment. Essentially "You don't need the price of a cloak - if you want a cloak you just go get one."

That's essentially how The One Ring works.