Title for Female Knights


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trancejeremy said:
Back in the 80s when I was taking Tae Kwon Do, we used "Sir" for women, too.

I'm still taking Taekwon-Do, and just like in the 80s, the women get real irritated if you call them 'Sir' :) (They're most definitely Ma'am...)

-Hyp.
 

Man in the Funny Hat said:
Point me to the uncouth rake who dares mock Dame Judith Anderson, Dame Judi Densch, Dame Edna... :)
If it's good enough for Diana Rigg, it ought to be good enough for you. Or do you really want to argue with Mrs. Peel? ;)
 


How is that sense of "dame" pronounced, anyway? I've always assumed for some reason that it was pronounced the same way as "damn", as opposed to the way the word spelled "dame" would be pronounced in an old Humphrey Bogart movie.
 

Dannyalcatraz said:
Knightie?
Oy - :\

Dame is the excepted, Lady is the promotion and as stated before ma'am is the contracted form of m'dame or madame (which also works for madameoiselle).
Historically - Sir/Madam (and Master/Mistress and Brother/Sister) are honorifics - meaning a title given to one to show honor, but having no real heriditary or noble value (you can technically call anyone Sir or Madam but it can only be used as a Title by a Knight of an order)

Lord/Lady; Duke/Dutchess; Baron/Baroness; King/Queen; Prince/Princess; Sultan/Sultana (or Sulteema); Viscount;Viscountess; Count/Countess(a); Father/Mother; Cardinal; Pope; Bishop; Imam & Baronet are all Titles - terms that denote special honor and are to be used at all times to show deference to that position. There are other honorifics that can take the place of these titles when speaking to a noble or royalty (used like a pro-noun so you don't have to keep saying King "so-and-so").
King/Queens's and the like - Your Majesty (western) / Most Exalted (One) (eastern)
Pope/Imam- Your Holiness (western) / Most Enlightened (One) (eastern)
Cardinals - Your Eminance
Bishops - Your Grace
Priests - Your Reverence (western) / (Oh) Enlighted (One) (eastern)
Nobility (all) - Your Honor (Note - The practice of regional nobility acting as judges, for the King during medieval and renaissance periods, is why judges carry that honorific now - it stuck as it were) (western) / Great Lord (eastern)

(I'm sure there are more but its late and I'm tired)
 

jeffh said:
How is that sense of "dame" pronounced, anyway? I've always assumed for some reason that it was pronounced the same way as "damn", as opposed to the way the word spelled "dame" would be pronounced in an old Humphrey Bogart movie.

Dame just like it's spelled, rhymes with same.
 

jeffh said:
How is that sense of "dame" pronounced, anyway? I've always assumed for some reason that it was pronounced the same way as "damn", as opposed to the way the word spelled "dame" would be pronounced in an old Humphrey Bogart movie.

/DAY-m/ - Like Boggie, but with out the cheauvinism or Jersy accent. :) When used with with ma - it is technically /M'-dahm/, but has been bastardized into /M'-dam/. When you travel to Germany the correct identification for a group of females is Dammen / DAH-man/

(Ok I really going to bed now...)
 

Some fantasy book, the title of which eludes me via a series of elaborate disguises and concealed tunnels, used 'dama'. Sounds like dame, as the usually-feminine-sounding -a suffix, and gets around the problem that your knightettes would sound like they belonged in a Chandler novel.
 


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