Pathfinder 1E To All Who Think Pathfinder Can Challenge WotC

[thecasualoblivion]

I post this in 4E because this is where all the pro-Paizo anti 4E posters are.

WotC can destroy Pathfinder any time it wants. All it has to do is release a 3E Rules Cyclopedia, which contains:

1. Make Fighter, Paladin, and Monk fusions of both these classes and the Warblade, Crusader, and Swordsage respectively
2. Make Barbarian a fusion of itself and Crusader, using the three disciplines Stone Dragon, Tiger Claw, and Iron Heart
3. Combine Bard with the Beguiler spell list and progression with 9th level spellcasting(the simplest Bard fix)
4. Rogue and Ranger would be based on Complete Scoundrel's Daring Outlaw and Swift Hunter feats
5. Sorcerer, Wizard, Cleric only minor changes
6. Druid must use the PHB II Shapeshift variant
7. Add Duskblade, Psion, Psychic Warrior, and Warlock. Possibly add Beguiler if Bard doesn't eat it.
8. Make a spell list of the classics, spells people tend to use a lot from Spell Compendium(use the CharOp boards as a resource) while removing/nerfing problem spells and useless/unoptimal spells.
9. Remove/Combine bad feats, and give a reasonably sized list of feats that are actually optimized and generally used by characters.
10. A brief system applying 4E monster creation to 3E.
11. Clarifications on problem spots like Turn Undead and Grapple.
12. Replace level adjustment with racial feats for powerful abilities, and use the +4 total bonus standard used by 4E for races. Include a smattering of ready made exotic races, such as Drow and Tieflings.
13. Be very selective, but give a good array of appealing PrCs people actually use.

You could go on. I don't think this would be a large undertaking for WotC. It would be more compatible with existing 3.5E than what Pathfinder is doing right now, and I don't think Pathfinder could compete with the amount of non-OGL material WotC can put into this.


I think that this is very unlikely, at least as long as 4E is shiny and new(as opposed to established and invincible). I'm just saying that WotC could do something like this without breaking a sweat, and I don't think Pathfinder could compete with it.

 

[Teemu]

I don't think WotC wants to "destroy" Paizo.

Why couldn't Pathfinder, 4e, and even 3e all exist at the same time?

 

[Bishmon]

Not only is this completely irrelevant to 4E, it's also combative and likely to lead to an argument. Hopefully this gets locked quickly.

 

[DandD]

What's the point of a thread to kick the "pro-Paizo anti 4E posters"?

I think I'll better report this thread, to quell any possible flamewars...

 

[Oni]

I thought all bigger companies wanted to destroy thier smaller competitors not unlike Godzilla in the midst of a Snack Attack.

 

[xechnao]

I post this in 4E because this is where all the pro-Paizo anti 4E posters are.

WotC can destroy Pathfinder any time it wants. All it has to do is release a 3E Rules Cyclopedia, which contains:

1. Make Fighter, Paladin, and Monk fusions of both these classes and the Warblade, Crusader, and Swordsage respectively
2. Make Barbarian a fusion of itself and Crusader, using the three disciplines Stone Dragon, Tiger Claw, and Iron Heart
3. Combine Bard with the Beguiler spell list and progression with 9th level spellcasting(the simplest Bard fix)
4. Rogue and Ranger would be based on Complete Scoundrel's Daring Outlaw and Swift Hunter feats
5. Sorcerer, Wizard, Cleric only minor changes
6. Druid must use the PHB II Shapeshift variant
7. Add Duskblade, Psion, Psychic Warrior, and Warlock. Possibly add Beguiler if Bard doesn't eat it.
8. Make a spell list of the classics, spells people tend to use a lot from Spell Compendium(use the CharOp boards as a resource) while removing/nerfing problem spells and useless/unoptimal spells.
9. Remove/Combine bad feats, and give a reasonably sized list of feats that are actually optimized and generally used by characters.
10. A brief system applying 4E monster creation to 3E.
11. Clarifications on problem spots like Turn Undead and Grapple.
12. Replace level adjustment with racial feats for powerful abilities, and use the +4 total bonus standard used by 4E for races. Include a smattering of ready made exotic races, such as Drow and Tieflings.
13. Be very selective, but give a good array of appealing PrCs people actually use.

You could go on. I don't think this would be a large undertaking for WotC. It would be more compatible with existing 3.5E than what Pathfinder is doing right now, and I don't think Pathfinder could compete with the amount of non-OGL material WotC can put into this.


I think that this is very unlikely, at least as long as 4E is shiny and new(as opposed to established and invincible). I'm just saying that WotC could do something like this without breaking a sweat, and I don't think Pathfinder could compete with it.

Actually that could be good news for Paizo and bad for 4e as Paizo could now focus better in supporting this product.

 

[Vempyre]

it always amazes me how ppl try to antagonize each other over matters of taste

 

[thecasualoblivion]

Actually that could be good news for Paizo and bad for 4e as Paizo could now focus better in supporting this product.

I see nothing wrong with that. I was a little clumsy in the original post, and should have said that if WotC desired, they could release something that Pathfinder couldn't deal with. When I said Paizo up there, I should have said Pathfinder.

Just a little sloppiness, due to being a little miffed at people who think a small 3rd party company can bloody the 800 pound gorilla of WotC is a reasonable assumption. Nothing against Paizo, just wishful thinkers.

 

[HeavenShallBurn]

Its when I see posts like the OP that I wonder how many plants are on these boards. Wouldn't be unreasonable for a company WoTC's size to detail a couple of their tech people to create some sockpuppets and try to push their own products a few hours a week. Seen it done before with other products.

 

[xechnao]

I see nothing wrong with that. I was a little clumsy in the original post, and should have said that if WotC desired, they could release something that Pathfinder couldn't deal with. When I said Paizo up there, I should have said Pathfinder.

Just a little sloppiness, due to being a little miffed at people who think a small 3rd party company can bloody the 800 pound gorilla of WotC is a reasonable assumption. Nothing against Paizo, just wishful thinkers.

Ok, but don't now -with your post here- know how to make Pathfinder in a way that they can bloody that gorilla?