To anyone who bought the EPIC LEVEL HANDBOOK

[Numion]

I have calculated that if a mage took the Epic Feat Multispell for every available feat possible, and then advanced to 100th level doing this, he or she would be able to cast approximately 44 spells per round (43 quickened spells plus one normal.)

Yes, that would be the case. But if he spent all his feats on multispell, are his spell save DCs up to CR 100 creatures? Likely not. As always, such focused power comes with a price. (Yes, I know, INT goes up 1 per 4 levels, but is that enough to pump up the DCs?)

 

[Psion]

[deletia]

 

[Tokiwong]

Just wanted to say I got the book and I beleive there are feats that allow you to cast more then one quickened spell per round, Epic Feats at least...

 

[kreynolds]

Are you forgetting the limit of one quickened spell per round?

There's an Epic feat that's available that grants you one additional quickened spell per round every time you take it, but without it, you're absolutely right, you would still be limited to one. Ironically, however, Multispell is the feat that does it. So, Edena was correct.

 

[Psion]

How dare you quote me before I can cover up the evidence that I was incorrect?

 

[kreynolds]

How dare you quote me before I can cover up the evidence that I was incorrect?

Why cover it up? Humility is a good thing.

 

[kreynolds]

Speaking of which, did Automatic Quicken Spell make it through playtest unchanged?

Yes.

First time taken: 0 - 3rd are quickened with no level adjustment.
Second time taken: 4th - 6th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Third time taken: 7th - 9th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Fourth time taken: 10th - 12th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Etc, etc, etc.

 

[Moon_Goddess]

Oh. So you must have playtested the epic level rules from 21st level to 40th level then? Perhaps even as high as 60th level? If you did playtest it, why didn't you fix it? If you didn't playtest from 21st level to 40th level, then where do you draw your judgement from?

(Note: I'm just pokin' at ya'.)

Seriously though, what made you come to your conclusion that there is no steady power curve? Do you mean there isn't a steady power curve among any given class? Monster? Or is there no steady power curve in relation to all of the classes and monsters?

Now I doubt anyone with a sword that big needs me to defend him, but I felt it was pretty wildly known around here that Regdar is a playtest. He's made comments about the ELH for months now. (Even long before it leaked to the web.)

He's made his opinion rather well known I thought, and as for "fixing it" You seem to believe playtesters have more power to influnce than they do, in the end all they can do is suggest and if the author doesn't listen, he doesn't listen.


Wander around back messages about the ELH, Regdar has comment all the way through that all the previews, (And now the finished product.) differ little from the first playtest he was sent. The only obvious assumtion is that the suggestions him and other playtesters were sending in were outright ignored.

 

[Other Guy]

Yes.

First time taken: 0 - 3rd are quickened with no level adjustment.
Second time taken: 4th - 6th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Third time taken: 7th - 9th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Fourth time taken: 10th - 12th are quickened with no level adjustment.
Etc, etc, etc.

Wow, that looks like a very nice feat. I'm assuming that the automatic still and automatic silent feats are basically the same, since that would be logical.

I have one question though, do these automatic quicken/still/silent feats increase the casting time for a sorcerer (or bard, etc.)? I would assume they don't, but since people actually have the book now I don't really need to make assumptions anymore, do I?

 

[James McMurray]

Just got my copy today before the game and haven't perused it much, but no, the automatic feats don't increase casting time. Of course, you have to have quicken to get automatic quicken, which means you get yourself a useless feat for your sorcerer for at least a level or two.