To anyone who bought the EPIC LEVEL HANDBOOK

Forrester said:


Yeah, but an item that allows you to do something far better, unskilled, than the most most most trained person in the land can do it (without magic) seems to me to be kind o' silly.

Your gripe seems to be with the D&D idea that an adventurer is the sum of flesh and blood and equipment.

IMHO, the distinction between the character and its eq isn't necessary, and doesn't even exist in most players' minds. I've noticed that my players pretty much equate their character to be the whole 'package', including his stuff.

Maybe +30 is a lot, but in todays society it might apply too. Scuba gear could easily give you that much to swimming skill, since you can't drown in it. Ok, maybe not +30, but it's not magical either. ;)
 

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Re: Dragon Strike

zhouj said:
But the spellcraft DC to research it is DC 50 which makes it viable for a 37th level caster to have 50/50 chance of accomplishing it with a mininum caster level of 28.

That is the thing that bother me most in the ELH, it should have a rule that increase dramaticaly the cost of item that grant bonus to spellcraft check.

A DC50 could be made by a level 21 wizards with a +30 item (non-epic) :(

I think I won't use their 10th level spell system :(
 

mikebr99 said:
The spells and feats out of this thing is really going to dramatically increase the power curve of your characters...

Dragon Strike spell: Summons 10 adult red dragons for 20 rnds. Attacks opponents to best of it's abilities...

Automatic Quicken Spell feat: all your 0 through 3rd level spells are now always quickened... without the level increase.

+1 to abilities are now individual feats

Intensify Spell feat... all variable, numeric effects are maximized, then doubled.


Just something to wet your appetite... ;)

Mike

Hey can you tell me what the DC for this spell is. Ever since I saw Dragon 297 I have been on edge inanticipation of what my Wizard might one day be able to do.:D
 
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Pickering said:


Hey can you tell me what the DC for this spell is. Ever since I saw Dragon 297 I have been on edge inanticipation of what my Wizard might one day be able to do.:D

Hey Pickering...

DC 150 - Eternal Freedom

DC 319 - Dire Winter

DC 419 - Vengeful Gaze of God

DC 500 - Dragon Strike
 

Re: Funny you should say that...

Krug said:


But.. the covers are different!

cover_sm.jpg


epic.jpg

ROFLMAO

WTFF
 
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Epic Spells

Epic spells can not have metamagic feats applied to them. I've never heard of a item that grants +30 to a skill. The limit seems to be +10 so I'm guessing it would need to an artifact.
mikebr99: I've checked dozens of times. I've checked the math for it. The spellcraft DC for Dragon Strike is DC 50, not DC 500. The highest level DC is Vengeful Gaze of God which has a DC of 417.
 


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