Toril must be a Super Earth.

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
I know, but when the creator picks a rotation and revolution exactly the same as Earth's, its not really likely he also intended the planet to be twice Earth's size. The setting is fairly obviously intended to be a parallel Earth, which is fairly common for fantasy settings.
It’s definitely supposed to be a parallel to earth, but I don’t imagine a ton of thought was put into the planet’s size. It has days, years, seasons, and tides like Earth’s because it’s convenient. But for that same reason (convenience), I would expect its size to be “as big as it needs to be to fit all the stuff we wrote.”
 

TwoSix

The hero you deserve
It’s definitely supposed to be a parallel to earth, but I don’t imagine a ton of thought was put into the planet’s size. It has days, years, seasons, and tides like Earth’s because it’s convenient. But for that same reason (convenience), I would expect its size to be “as big as it needs to be to fit all the stuff we wrote.”
Oh sure, that's exactly what I think too. I would just need to see a lot more evidence to support the "super-Earth" contention when I think the current evidence points towards it being a regular old Earth.
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
Earth would be bigger too if we had to have at least one day of wilderness journey between every two towns.
When foot is the main means of transport, one day's journey might not be all that far - depending on trail/road/weather conditions, of course, and on how straight a line the trail/road takes.

Horse-and-carriage or horse-and-wagon isn't much faster if any. Horse alone can be, but not by as much as you might think over the long haul.

In good conditions on reasonably flat terrain, making 20 miles a day is probably the best you can hope for without exhausting yourselves or your mounts. In less-than-good conditions you won't even get that far.
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
As for Toril itself, yes the continents are big compared to Earth but that seems to be cancelled off by there being less ocean*, so the end result is probably about the same size.

* -which of course they almost certainly haven't factored into their weather/climate patterns, but that's a different issue.
 

Oofta

Title? I don't need no stinkin' title.
When foot is the main means of transport, one day's journey might not be all that far - depending on trail/road/weather conditions, of course, and on how straight a line the trail/road takes.

Horse-and-carriage or horse-and-wagon isn't much faster if any. Horse alone can be, but not by as much as you might think over the long haul.

In good conditions on reasonably flat terrain, making 20 miles a day is probably the best you can hope for without exhausting yourselves or your mounts. In less-than-good conditions you won't even get that far.
As someone who's backpacked, 20 miles is a good hike. If you have wagons and/or difficult terrain I will cut that in half unless there are well maintained roads. It's easy to take long distances for granted when we can travel ten times faster on our daily commutes than our ancestors were capable of. Historically, many people never traveled more than 20 miles from where they were born.
 
When foot is the main means of transport, one day's journey might not be all that far - depending on trail/road/weather conditions, of course, and on how straight a line the trail/road takes.

Horse-and-carriage or horse-and-wagon isn't much faster if any. Horse alone can be, but not by as much as you might think over the long haul.

In good conditions on reasonably flat terrain, making 20 miles a day is probably the best you can hope for without exhausting yourselves or your mounts. In less-than-good conditions you won't even get that far.
Totally true. I'm mostly just poking fun at these settings mostly being fantasy European medieval, which means that a lot of that wilderness should be miles upon miles of farmlands with several little villages (albeit not all necessarily anything we would recognize as such today) coming by every few miles. It should take days to get anywhere, but there should be a lot more people and civilization along the way than I usually see presented. All usable land should basically be claimed and settled to the extent that threats of magical evil allow.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Totally true. I'm mostly just poking fun at these settings mostly being fantasy European medieval, which means that a lot of that wilderness should be miles upon miles of farmlands with several little villages (albeit not all necessarily anything we would recognize as such today) coming by every few miles. It should take days to get anywhere, but there should be a lot more people and civilization along the way than I usually see presented. All usable land should basically be claimed and settled to the extent that threats of magical evil allow.
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't show up on the larger scale maps.

The old Sword Coast 2E maps has lots of towns that don't appear on the maps.

Small villages of under 1000 people won't be on most maps.
 

Harzel

Adventurer
Those things don’t really indicate size, though. Revolution period is a function of the mass of the parent object, mass of the orbiting object, and the distance between the two objects. Rotation period is a function of circumference and rotational speed. Mars has a rotation period only 37 minutes longer that Earth’s, and it’s about half the size, where Venus’ rotational period is over a hindered times the length of Earths, and it’s 2/3 the size.
I don't think it invalidates your point (and in addition it's nit-picky), but by usual definitions I don't think circumference enters into the relationship between rotation period and rotation speed - period (time per rotation) and speed (rotations per unit time) are just inverses of each other. Possibly I misinterpreted what you said.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
I don't think it invalidates your point (and in addition it's nit-picky), but by usual definitions I don't think circumference enters into the relationship between rotation period and rotation speed - period (time per rotation) and speed (rotations per unit time) are just inverses of each other. Possibly I misinterpreted what you said.
Let me try to explain myself better. Earth’s circumference is roughly 40,075 kilometers. A point on Earth’s surface at the equator covers that distance in 23 hours and 56 minutes, meaning it is traveling at around about 1656 kilometers per hour. Mars’s circumference is roughly 21,344 (a little over half the size of Earth), but it’s rotational period is actually longer than Earths by close to 40 minutes. A point on Mars’s surface at the equator is therefore traveling a little over half the distance that our point on Earth is, in a little over the same amount of time. Therefore, it is spinning much slower. 868.22 kilometers per hour to be precise, a little over half the speed.

If Mars were the size of Earth but still spun at the same speed, its day would be over twice as long as Earth’s. If it was the same size but spun as fast as earth did, it’s day would be a quarter the length of Earth’s.
 

Tonguez

Adventurer
I thought it was well known the Toril was bigger than Earth (like Canon well-known), the large size does go a long way to explain how so many sapient humanoids and mega-predators could have evolved independently on one planet
 

Coroc

Adventurer
Totally true. I'm mostly just poking fun at these settings mostly being fantasy European medieval, which means that a lot of that wilderness should be miles upon miles of farmlands with several little villages (albeit not all necessarily anything we would recognize as such today) coming by every few miles. It should take days to get anywhere, but there should be a lot more people and civilization along the way than I usually see presented. All usable land should basically be claimed and settled to the extent that threats of magical evil allow.
Actually your thought on how medieval e.g. Europe looked might be a bit off.
It was rather miles of dense forest with hollow paths, then some villages and farmland when you come closer to some bigger town. There was certainly much less farmland than nowadays, population was much smaller.
Normally the next market (= a village which had market rights) was about half a day by foot or so away, so if you departed very early you could go sell / buy cattle and arrive back home in the evening.
It was pitch black in the forests on a moonless nights, nobody wanted to travel at night.
 

Horwath

Explorer
Not sure how accurate this is:
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it looks right by size, but I think it's too much north. Most of Faerun would be very cold and Shinning South would be very moderate, unless ever warmer vesrion of Gulf stream goes around it shouther and western coast.

I would say that Southern part of Shinning south should touch the equator or be just little above it.
 

LuisCarlos17f

Adventurer
We have to remember the world of Mystara was hollow and even there was a spin-off setting there. Maybe Toril has got also a hollow space like Julie Verne's travel to the centre of the earth (version with dinosaurs).
 

jasper

Rotten DM
Bing has wagon trains going between 10 to 25 miles a day but that is the average which includes rest days.
It took 5 months to travel from Memphis to La about 1,793 miles but it only took 5 weeks to travel from New York City to Memphis 5 weeks. 1095 miles so 31 miles a day. So either roads and friendly races made travel easier, or you have more random encounters once you cross the great muddy.
 
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