Touch of Idiocy.. Typo?

[Staffan]

Don't have 3.5e, so I'm just going on the quotations, but isn't the penalty type unnamed? In which case, should it not stack with itself? Or is it an 'enhancement penalty' (as per RoE currently is).

I don't know what 3.5e says, but in 3.0 one spell does not stack with itself, even if it gives an unnamed bonus/penalty. PHB page 153: "Spells that give bonuses or penalties to attack rolls, damage rolls, saving throws, and other attributes usually do not stack with themselves." Bonus names only come into it when you're dealing with bonuses from different sources.

 

[Technik4]

Just make sure the Wizard puts a Maximized Touch of Idiocy in my Spell-storing Weapon.

Technik

 

[fba827]

Re: Re: Touch of Idiocy.. Typo?

Actually in the spell lists it says that. In the description (page 294, PH 3.5) it says the spell "applies a 1d6 penalty to the target's Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. The penalty cannot reduce any of these below 1."


So- one is wrong. Applying a penalty is quite a bit different than doing ability damage.

Ever since 3.0, the sage advice, errata, and faq have always stated that when their is a discrepency between the spell's one-line description and its full description to always refer to the full description. It is reasonable to say that this is also the process that should be applied here (so presume that the full-write up is the correct of the two)

 

[Darklone]

Just make sure the Wizard puts a Maximized Touch of Idiocy in my Spell-storing Weapon.

Technik

Don't forget Empower.

 

[isoChron]

It's a nice spell against Duelists and Expertize-Fighters, too.
No more whirlwind .....
Weapon masters will crumble to dust without the INT 13+ ........
A quickened spectral hand is always at hand
Will saves get even more weakened for the poor fighter ... Hold Person anyone ?

I think it's a really bad idea for a first level spell, but perhaps you have to apply NPC trait 100 : No sense of humor ....