Wishbone
Paladin Radmaster
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D&D 4E Tropes of the Nentir Vale
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Hexmage-EN
Legend
I think Zehir was more Khala's consort during the War of Winter rather than than the father of Kord.
Zeromaru X
Arkhosian scholar and coffee lover
Nope. The Midnight Serpent is just one of Zehir's titles.
dave2008
Legend
Did Dendar ever get an official mention in 4e?
Zeromaru X
Arkhosian scholar and coffee lover
Yeah. Dendar was mentioned as one of the primordials known as "the seven lost gods", along with Kezef the Hound of Chaos and Borem of the Boiling Mud, in the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide. They are later mentioned again in the roll of primordials in Heroes of the Elemental Chaos, among the primordials of Abeir-Toril.
cavalier973
Hero
Okay, I was thumbing through the monster manuals, and found this bit of information in the Monster Vault:
When the gods were creating creatures to inhabit the world, Zehir found he couldnt do it, so he sweet-talked Avandra into teaching him how to change some other god's creatures. She did, with the stipulation that the creatures had to be willing to be changed.
So, after the end of the Dawn War, Zehir killed He Who Was, and tempted some of HWW's creatures--humans--into being twisted into Yuan-ti.
It doesn't mention how the murder was accomplished. Perhaps Zehir sweet-talked Asmodeus into treachery.
When the gods were creating creatures to inhabit the world, Zehir found he couldnt do it, so he sweet-talked Avandra into teaching him how to change some other god's creatures. She did, with the stipulation that the creatures had to be willing to be changed.
So, after the end of the Dawn War, Zehir killed He Who Was, and tempted some of HWW's creatures--humans--into being twisted into Yuan-ti.
It doesn't mention how the murder was accomplished. Perhaps Zehir sweet-talked Asmodeus into treachery.
Zeromaru X
Arkhosian scholar and coffee lover
Well, there is that version, and there is the version that says Zehir aided Asmodeus to kill He Who Was during the War of Betrayal. We know for the narrative of the Demonomicon, that the one who sweet-talked Asmodeus into betraying the gods was Pazuzu. He also aided him to kill He Who Was, and Asmodeus still owns him for that. In fact, it's also said that the whole Blood War is manipulated by both, Asmodeus and Pazuzu, for their own ends.
What if Zehir was also part of that complot? Obviously, he must have joined later, but it's plausible, seeing that it's believed Io was killed by Erek-Hus because Zehir betrayed them, as Zehir also wanted dragons for himself (IIRC, this is stated in Divine Power).
What if Zehir was also part of that complot? Obviously, he must have joined later, but it's plausible, seeing that it's believed Io was killed by Erek-Hus because Zehir betrayed them, as Zehir also wanted dragons for himself (IIRC, this is stated in Divine Power).
Undrave
Legend
Isn't Zehir a god of poison? Wouldn't it make sense that he supplied Asmodeus with a god-killing poison or something?
Aldarc
Legend
I use this version for my Altered Dawn War Pantheon, with the idea that Zehir convinces Asmodeus to betray He-Who-Was - who was the father of Zehir, Pelor, and Sehanine (sky gods) in my version - for the sake of gaining his father's position.
Hexmage-EN
Legend
Nah, he saved that for killing his own daughter, Nusemnee.
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