D&D 5E Two characters combining their carrying capacity for dimension door

[billd91]

I'm not necessarily a stickler for rules, but I am for living with the consequences of your choices. Dumping strength is a classic example of an optimization choice that a lot of people let slide because they don't want to deal with the rule subsystem (encumbrance) that provides some of the consequence.

 

[DND_Reborn]

I'm not necessarily a stickler for rules, but I am for living with the consequences of your choices. Dumping strength is a classic example of an optimization choice that a lot of people let slide because they don't want to deal with the rule subsystem (encumbrance) that provides some of the consequence.

I understand your point, but even if you don't dump STR, using the 15 x STR is only 150 lbs for STR 10 (not a dump for non-STR melee PCS) isn't enough to carry most adult men by yourself.

FWIW, we use a modified variant system that mimics the variant option in the PHB.

 

[Dausuul]

I'm not necessarily a stickler for rules, but I am for living with the consequences of your choices. Dumping strength is a classic example of an optimization choice that a lot of people let slide because they don't want to deal with the rule subsystem (encumbrance) that provides some of the consequence.

Say you don't dump Strength and you put it to, I don't know, 12 instead of 8. Your carrying capacity is now 180 pounds. If the fighter weighs more than 115 pounds and is wearing plate (not even considering their other gear), you're still not going to be able to carry them by yourself. Hauling other PCs around requires more than merely not-dumping Strength, you have to invest in it heavily.

I might also add that in this situation, it's not you living with the consequences--it's the dead fighter who's living with them, or rather, not living with them.

 

[Umbran]

Basically, what the thread title says. A group is in a combat that they are losing badly and they want to disengage. There's a dead fighter who is too heavy for any single character to carry (low str scores all around...). One character is capable of casting dimension door and thus could teleport herself and another ally. Would you allow them to "combine" their carrying capacity for teleporting the dead fighter with them?

If the fighter is really and most sincerely dead, then yes.

If the fighter is still working through death saves... then I'd tend towards Dausuul's position, which is still a yes.

 

[Lyxen]

I'm not necessarily a stickler for rules, but I am for living with the consequences of your choices. Dumping strength is a classic example of an optimization choice that a lot of people let slide because they don't want to deal with the rule subsystem (encumbrance) that provides some of the consequence.

I'm with you on this, honestly, and again not for the rules aspect, but since when do we allow separate spellcasting to combine ? What's next, combining two fireballs for a greater radius ? How would you even coordinate the casting so that one guy does not go a millisecond before the other one and tear the fighter in two ? Although that might be the solution, since he's dead, cut him in half.

Dimension Door is already a fantastic spell, so I'm not really in favour of making it even more powerful.

 

[Dausuul]

I'm with you on this, honestly, and again not for the rules aspect, but since when do we allow separate spellcasting to combine ? What's next, combining two fireballs for a greater radius ? How would you even coordinate the casting so that one guy does not go a millisecond before the other one and tear the fighter in two ? Although that might be the solution, since he's dead, cut him in half.

Dimension Door is already a fantastic spell, so I'm not really in favour of making it even more powerful.

Only one person is casting dimension door. The caster gets to take 1 passenger. Each of them can bring along anything they can carry.

The question is, can the caster and passenger together carry an object (specifically, a corpse) that neither could manage alone?

 

[Lyxen]

Only one person is casting dimension door. The caster gets to take 1 passenger. Each of them can bring along anything they can carry.
The question is, can the caster and passenger together carry an object (specifically, a corpse) that neither could manage alone?

Ah, OK, my bad, that's different, I thought it was more complicated than this but read badly. Yes, in that case, I think I would allow it, there are no rules for shared burden but it sort of makes sense.

 

[Weiley31]

yes.

 

[toucanbuzz]

I suppose if this is possible, then yeah, but make sure they're using proper carrying techniques or they could injure themselves. Every day, dozens of PCs with Strength scores of 8 or 9 throw out their backs because they didn't know proper lift and carry. And knowledge, as those PCs with 8 or 9 Strength are oft to say, is power.

 

[Nikosandros]

If the fighter is really and most sincerely dead, then yes.

If the fighter is still working through death saves... then I'd tend towards Dausuul's position, which is still a yes.

He's pining for the fjords...

Yes, he's really dead. Hit while down* (auto-crit, for two fails) and then failed the third roll.

*A ravenous carnivorous giant lizard was in front of him.