Two-Weapon Defense

[John Q. Mayhem]

Slightly OT, but Ijust let players take the feat "+1 AC." They can provide whatever flavour text they want; TWD, tough hide, defensive stance, preturnatural awareness, etc.

 

[Trainz]

Improved Buckle Defense (or Greater or whatever) is also quite nice for a two weapon fighter. For the cost of one feat, you potentially add 6 to AC with -1 to hit.

The spiked chain fighter in our campaign did this, and doesn't regret it.

Eventually you'll even be able to add greater fortification on that buckler. That's just groovy.

 

[Doomhawk]

By the time you get to Improved/Greater Two Weapon Defense, you actually get a greater benefit out of Fighting Defensively than you do with Combat Expertise (especially if you have Tumble). Consider: with Combat Expertise, you take -4 to hit and get +4 to AC. With 5 ranks in Tumble and ITWD, you get an extra 5 points of AC for that same -4 to hit. ITWD and GTWD give the same degree of benefit as normal TWD, so if you think that the base Two-Weapon Defense feat is worth taking, then the improved versions are as well.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Improved Buckle Defense (or Greater or whatever) is also quite nice for a two weapon fighter. For the cost of one feat, you potentially add 6 to AC with -1 to hit.

The spiked chain fighter in our campaign did this, and doesn't regret it..

Note that Improved Buckler Defense doesn't provide a bonus to characters that wield 2-handed weapons, only if a character is wielding a weapon in their off-hand. So works for TWFs but not 2-H by the RAW. 2-H are good enough as it is to give them a houserule to use this feat too IMHO.

 

[Trainz]

Note that Improved Buckler Defense doesn't provide a bonus to characters that wield 2-handed weapons, only if a character is wielding a weapon in their off-hand. So works for TWFs but not 2-H by the RAW. 2-H are good enough as it is to give them a houserule to use this feat too IMHO.

Wow. You're right.

My friend will be mad.

 

[irdeggman]

It's still a lot, IMO for a single point of AC.

AR

It is not a single point of AC.

two weapon defense - +1 shield bonus

greater two weapon defense - +3 shield bonus to AC.

This is in contrast to the weapon focus chain which adds +1 at each level.

 

[Blue Sky]

It is not a single point of AC.

two weapon defense - +1 shield bonus

greater two weapon defense - +3 shield bonus to AC.

This is in contrast to the weapon focus chain which adds +1 at each level.

GTWD requires ITWD requires TWD. Thus, +1 per level.

 

[xazil]

GTWD also seems a very bad deal if your DM lets in animated shields as a character getting to these levels should be able to afford one and large animated shield +1 is 3 AC for no feats.

 

[irdeggman]

GTWD requires ITWD requires TWD. Thus, +1 per level.

Missed that because the table of feats in CW doesn't list it as a prerequisite, but the feat description does.

That means it functions exactly like the weapon focus chain - which translates to what's the problem, IMO?

 

[Doomhawk]

Animated shields still count as if the character were using them, including ASF and any penalties for using a shield (for instance, the loss of all monk abilities). The TWD tree doesn't suffer these limitations.
Also, animated shields cost gold. TWD is free.