D&D (2024) Types of Magic - Arcane, Divine, and Primal?

What about Warlock, Ranger and Paladin spell lists? I’m not sure the old concepts of arcane, divine and primal map too well with the class based spell lists.
They mapped unofficially Arcane, Divine, and Primal to the Wizard, Cleric, a Druid respectively.

The other classes aren't that neat and aren't unofficially mapped to any single magic type.
 

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One thing I'm unclear on in the 2024 PHB is the types of magic in this edition.

Traditionally, there have been arcane and divine, though 4e also had primal and psionic. The playtest seemed to go back and forth on primal. I'm not seeing anything that specifies.

Is this something they're leaving ambiguous on purpose, or have I missed something somewhere?
The result in the 2024 Players Handbook seems like:

"Arcane" = Wizard full caster
"Divine" = Cleric full caster
"Primal" = Druid full caster
 

What about Warlock, Ranger and Paladin spell lists? I’m not sure the old concepts of arcane, divine and primal map too well with the class based spell lists.
Warlock, Sorcerer, Fighter, and Rogue spells generally overlap with Arcane (Wizard), Ranger spells generally overlap with Primal (Druid), and Paladin spells generally overlap with Divine (Cleric). Bards are kind of all over the place. This is just an observation of the general trend, and not any official designation presented in the book.
 



unofficially is the same as "does not exist".
No

Unofficially means they designed it that way but they're not saying directly in the mechanics to it that way.

For example when they did the magic initiate feat defeat only tags wizard cleric and druid now because that's what they ascribe to the arcane divine and Primal spell list.

You cannot dabble as an initiate and snag bard spells because bard is not baseline arcane anymore
 

No

Unofficially means they designed it that way but they're not saying directly in the mechanics to it that way.

For example when they did the magic initiate feat defeat only tags wizard cleric and druid now because that's what they ascribe to the arcane divine and Primal spell list.

You cannot dabble as an initiate and snag bard spells because bard is not baseline arcane anymore
unofficial is like rai. Its not whats written, and the lore of the books does nothing to uphold it. Its just wishful thinking that it still exists.
 

On the plus side, it also stops full casters like Bards from pilfering signature spells of the half-casters and being able to use them earlier and better than the Rangers and Paladins.
The EK can pick up compelled duel via fey-touched because it's an enchantment unless stipulations have been added to fey-touched (or shadow touched).

Bards couldn't just "pilfer signature spells" faster than paladins or rangers because paladins and rangers have most of them before bards even get magical secrets at 10th level. Realistically it was only only 4th and 5th level spells, and that was still unlikely given the cleric and wizard spells that normally take priority over paladin or ranger spells. It was an edge case argument.

Not sure where you're getting "better" from. Earlier is possible with 4th and 5th level spells in those cases but not better. With the compelled duel example a bard could pick it up at 10th level even though a paladin had it at 2nd level and the spell does the exact same thing.
 



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