Unearthed Arcana Unearthed Arcana: Four New Subclasses

There's a new Unearthed Arcana from Ben Petrisor, Dan Dillon, Bill Benham, Jeremy Crawford, F. Wesley Schneider. This one has four new subclasses Path of the Beast (Barbarian), Way of Mercy (Monk), Oath of the Watchers (Paladin), Noble Genie (Warlock).


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Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey

Parmandur

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It shows again that the monk simply doesn't get enough ki points - the basic heal should cost about half a point.

Oh, boy, that's not correct: the Ki points are pretty precisely correlated to being a short-rest based half-caster using the spell point variant from the DMG.

Incidentally, you were right, this now looks like Xanathar's II: This Time It's Classy is on the way.
 

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Oh, boy, that's not correct: the Ki points are pretty precisely correlated to being a short-rest based half-caster using the spell point variant from the DMG.

given that ki point progression is linear and spell points are geometric that is mathematically impossible.

Incidentally, you were right, this now looks like Xanathar's II: This Time It's Classy is on the way.
I was thinking more along the lines of Laeral Silverhand's Guide to everything Xanathar chose not to tell you
 

GlassJaw

Hero
Beast looks cool overall but I still hate that 5E didn't do a better job clearing up the difference between weapons, melee attacks, unarmed strikes, natural weapons, etc, etc.

In general, abilities that grant natural weapons aren't all that great and create confusion. I've read up the differences and I still have questions every time.

For example, can natural weapons be used with Reckless Attack? Reckless Attack states "...advantage on melee weapon attacks using Strength...". 🤯
 

jayoungr

Legend
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Why would a healer have a poisonous aura?
Reminds me of Lou When Jie from Thunderbolt Fantasy season 2 who was a powerful monk able to manipulate Ki and is able to use it for healing...
I remembered where the I'd seen the healing/poison thing. It was in Ice Fantasy, episode 5, when the character of Yue Shen, a "Li Healer," is introduced (25:19 in the attached video). A character explains her abilities like this:

"When I was a child, Master Xuan Ta told me the duty of the Healer Tribe is to heal. However, among them, certain individuals are born with deathly auras. Too strong of a deathly aura can kill the patient. It will even implicate the people around them. That's why they can only become martial artists and poison users."

While he's describing this, Yue Shen is wielding a sword with spinning coins to somehow, from a distance, break the aura surrounding a victim of an explosion. When she's done, the victim sits up and seems to be better.

(BTW, Ice Fantasy is a really fun series, for anyone who enjoys C-dramas. It's kind of a Chinese take on Western-style fantasy, with elves and such.)
 
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I remembered where the I'd seen the healing/poison thing. It was in Ice Fantasy, episode 5, when the character of Yue Shen is introduced (25:19 in the attached video). A character explains her abilities like this:

"When I was a child, Master Xuan Ta told me the duty of the Healer Tribe is to heal. However, among them, certain individuals are born with deathly auras. Too strong of a deathly aura can kill the patient. It will even implicate the people around them. That's why they can only become martial artists and poison users."

While he's describing this, Yue Shen is wielding a sword with spinning coins to somehow, from a distance, break the aura surrounding a victim of an explosion. When she's done, the victim sits up and seems to be better.

(BTW, Ice Fantasy is a really fun series, for anyone who enjoys C-dramas. It's kind of a Chinese take on Western-style fantasy, with elves and such.)
Or that masterpiece of cinema, Rise of Skywalker...
 

RogueJK

It's not "Rouge"... That's makeup.
Yes, I thought of that. It's an interesting direction to take for a paladin that plays differently. It gets around that "core is too powerful for much variation" by competing directly with Smite for spell slots. This subclass doesn't seem to go far enough in that direction though. Something like "Oath of the Lorekeeper" could push it further.

I'd totally play a Lorekeeper Paladin. Sort of like a Paladin-based Eldritch Knight. Or like a Sorcadin that preps their spells each day, and focuses more on using their slots for spells than Smites.
 




RogueJK

It's not "Rouge"... That's makeup.
As I said, the text needs to be clarified - natural melee weapons are normally treated as unarmed strikes.

Negative. Natural weapons only function as "unarmed strikes" when specifically called out as being able to be used as such, like with many of the racial natural weapons such as Tabaxi claws or Lizardfolk bite. Otherwise, they are not unarmed strikes.

See the Sage Advice clarification below, from: Are natural weapons there own category of weapon?

Am I right that attacks with natural weapons are still considered unarmed strikes rather than attacks with a weapon? E.g. for greenflame blade, silvered fists and similar.

— Viktor Bengtsson (@vikke064) January 22, 2018

An attack with a natural weapon is not an unarmed strike. An unarmed strike follows the unarmed strike rules in the Player's Handbook, no matter what type of creature is attacking. Some exceptional natural weapons, such as tabaxi claws, can be used for unarmed strikes.
— Jeremy Crawford (@JeremyECrawford) January 22, 2018
 
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Undrave

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I remembered where the I'd seen the healing/poison thing. It was in Ice Fantasy, episode 5, when the character of Yue Shen is introduced (25:19 in the attached video). A character explains her abilities like this:

"When I was a child, Master Xuan Ta told me the duty of the Healer Tribe is to heal. However, among them, certain individuals are born with deathly auras. Too strong of a deathly aura can kill the patient. It will even implicate the people around them. That's why they can only become martial artists and poison users."

While he's describing this, Yue Shen is wielding a sword with spinning coins to somehow, from a distance, break the aura surrounding a victim of an explosion. When she's done, the victim sits up and seems to be better.

(BTW, Ice Fantasy is a really fun series, for anyone who enjoys C-dramas. It's kind of a Chinese take on Western-style fantasy, with elves and such.)

Oh sweet! thanks for the recommendation.

Thunderbolt Fantasy, meanwhile, is very much inspired by Chinese stories of wandering warriors and could be classified as C-Drama... but it's a different medium...


It's totally worth watching if you get the chance, it's pure epic fantasy! The first season is very DnD too: "Assemble a party to get a piece of the McGuffin back from the Bad Guy before he gets your piece and does A Bad Thing"
 

jayoungr

Legend
Supporter
I've heard about Thunderbolt Fantasy! It's definitely on my to-watch list.

If you check out Ice Fantasy, I strongly recommend watching the first two episodes before you make up your mind about it. The first episode ends in a weird place and really just introduces the main characters. The second episode is where things really get going.

 
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Weiley31

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For
Negative. Natural weapons only function as "unarmed strikes" when specifically called out as being able to be used as such, like with many of the racial natural weapons such as Tabaxi claws or Lizardfolk bite. Otherwise, they are not unarmed strikes.

See the Sage Advice clarification below, from: Are natural weapons there own category of weapon?

For the sake of my Ragewalker Fey Path of The Beast character, I'm considering it that they count as melee weapons and crap.
 

Parmandur

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given that ki point progression is linear and spell points are geometric that is mathematically impossible.

Incorrect, Ki progression is geometric since it is a short rest refreshed resource (usually 6 Ki points per day at level 2, up to about 60 Ki points per day at Level 20), and follows the same trajectory as the Paladin, Ranger, or Artificer if you look at the spell point variant chart.

And remember, every Class is balanced assuming that they will have those two short rests per day, and in the Monks case (as with the Warlock) that they will shoot their wads between each rest.
 
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My opinion is there are plans about a "Heroes of Horror", as a Ravenloft player guide but without fluff. Maybe this will be the place for the blood hunter class. A new planar handbook is also possible but I wonder about to await to be published some new media project.

A monster pet tamer class is possible, maybe sha'ir or totem shaman as names. I feel interest about a pokemon trainer class but with incarnum soulmolder powers to buff, metamagic effects or add more monster traits.

A ki healer monk is an option for not always only divine spellcasters (with armours).

I would like a new Oriental Adventures (with more classses, not only sohei) and "1001 nights" (Or Adv 2) but I wish to know the feedback by Asian D&D fans/players. I wonder about martial adept classes in Kara-tur as important keys, in the same way psionic in Dark Sun.
 



jayoungr

Legend
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As far as East Asian fantasy series go I much prefer Yuusha Yoshihiko to Maou no Shiro
I LOVE THAT THING TO DEATH! Where can I find the subtitled version? I've been wanting to introduce my friends to it, but I can only find short clips online with subtitles. (Send me a PM if you prefer.)
 


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