Thank You everyone for your thoughtful comments. I'll share that I did this series of polls because these are truly options that I have not seen anyone take at all in hundreds of sessions over the years with dozens of players. I don't say 'never' lightly. With this much larger sample, something close to a third have used one of these and had a positive experience. Almost all of the positive comments were about the Mastermind which responders found valuable as a support character. If your party needs support buffs and you need a rogue, I can see it but I've had literally zero players pick any of these. The comments on the other two mainly center around 'fixing' them and finding them positively, or 'fixing' them or making rules mistakes in their favor and still not finding them viable. I can't wait to see a play test on the next version of monk.In 5E, in actual play, have you used any of these at all during the time that they have been published options? I will be posting several polls separately to get a feel for what people are actually doing.