Okay, we're done. You two need to quit bickering, and this thread is so hijacked that I'm just going to close it. If someone wishes to start a new thread which stays on topic, they're welcome to do so. Sfedi, I'm sorry this thread wandered so awry.
Jeff, Hyp, I know you're frustrated with one another, but you guys should know better than to engage in major thread hijack. Let the sordid detect evil discussion alone for a week or two before you try to wrestle it back into submission.
Thread closed.