Using Bluff to hide while meleeing (with HiPS)

[Thanee]

No, if you attack from hiding... you can sneak attack, of course. But you cannot remain hidden.

And I didn't say, that this is the RAW, just that I play it that way.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Storyteller01]

Trans. "way of the ninja potato"

Beware the fearsome roots of death!!

Yea I butchered the spelling. It's a school of ninjitsu, same way karate has it's own variety of schools.

 

[Tyrol]

Is there any way in the RAW to create a diversion to hide as a move action (or part of a move action)?
What if a character has the Improved Feint feat, that allows Feinting to be performed as a move action? Could he use Bluff and Improved Feint to create a diversion to hide as a move action (and thus Hide as part of the move action too)? Or what about the Uncanny Feint ability of an Invisible Blade?

The two uses of bluff in combat (as a fient or to create a diversion to hide) are very similar. The only difference in mechanism seems to be that a Feint check provides the opposer with a BAB bonus. Assuming the RAW is not definitive, would it be unreasonable to conclude that:

A) the Improved Feint feat can be used for diversions, but only if the standard check applicable to Feints is used (Bluff + d20 against Sense Motive + BAB + d20, rather than the normal Bluff + d20 vs Sense motive + d20) - (Would this be a reasonable DM judgement call from an ambiguous RAW? or house hule?)
B) Create a feat that would likely be called 'Improved Diversion to Hide' that would allow it to be performed as part of a move action. (this would likely be a house rule)

LOL, I got complete adventurer and wouldn't you know... there's a feat called "Improved Diversion" that does just this.