Using Hide in Combat

[melkoriii]

Also remember that if the Monk has his Sling ready, he can not make AoO.

There maybe some contention on this point but even if you do allow him to make AoO, remember the Two Weapon fighting penalties and off hand penalties as he does have the sling ready and is the Primary weapon.

 

[Thanee]

Tell that to my wife. I constantly spring out at her from around a door as she passes.

That's a readied action, not an AoO.

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Thanee

 

[Thanee]

If two folks have the same skill bonus score for Hide and Spot, the odds of finding the hider should be 50/50. If not, you are talking away from the skill of the hider.

In my example (yes I know, you don't refer to that directly), I gave the bonus, because the spotter has seen the hider vanish behind the boulder. That limits the area to check considerably and should therefore confer a bonus. Also, because he knows quite well what to look for.

A general bonus, like above, just because you are "actively searching" might be a bad idea, for the reason pointed out.

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Thanee

 

[Artoomis]

In my example (yes I know, you don't refer to that directly), I gave the bonus, because the spotter has seen the hider vanish behind the boulder. That limits the area to check considerably and should therefore confer a bonus. Also, because he knows quite well what to look for.

A fair point - a bonus of +2, then - the normal, generic circumstance bonus. Even then I would be hesitant to do it, but it's pretty reasonable assuming the monk ends up being where you thought he went.

That bonus would also apply to someone using the Hide in Plain Sight ability right in front of you - you certainly know what to look for and where to look.

With that in mind, I wonder how good an idea it is? No doubt the player running the Shadowdancer will protest.

A general bonus, like above, just because you are "actively searching" might be a bad idea, for the reason pointed out.

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Thanee

Agreed.

 

[Iron Sheep]

Also remember that if the Monk has his Sling ready, he can not make AoO.

There maybe some contention on this point but even if you do allow him to make AoO, remember the Two Weapon fighting penalties and off hand penalties as he does have the sling ready and is the Primary weapon.

True for most characters, but not if the monk was making an unarmed strike:

A monk’s attacks may be with either fist interchangeably or even from elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may even make unarmed strikes with her hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all her unarmed strikes.

 

[Artoomis]

True for most characters, but not if the monk was making an unarmed strike:

So long as the monk does not actually use the sling.

 

[melkoriii]

True for most characters, but not if the monk was making an unarmed strike:

Quote:
Originally Posted by SRD
A monk’s attacks may be with either fist interchangeably or even from elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may even make unarmed strikes with her hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all her unarmed strikes.

Hmmm need to read more on 3.5 monks.

Still that quote does not account for Two weapon Fighting.

This would be the same thing as having a Fighter useing a Bow take AoO with his Armor spikes.

 

[jgsugden]

That's a readied action, not an AoO.

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Thanee

Of course. She had *cover* while going around the corner.

 

[Iron Sheep]

Still that quote does not account for Two weapon Fighting.

As Artoomis pointed out, this is only an issue if the monk attacks with the sling and an unarmed strike in the same full attack action round. If you can even do that.

This would be the same thing as having a Fighter useing a Bow take AoO with his Armor spikes.

I don't have a problem with that, as long as the fighter uses the hand which isn't holding the bow at the time (and so maybe getting an off-hand penalty). I can see that some DMs might consider the bow to be always requiring 2 hands, in which case they could reasonably disallow this; but I don't recall this being addressed one way or another in the rules.

I'd certainly have no problem with a hypothetical bow-using monk using an unarmed attack for an attack of opportunity, even in a round when they used the bow because they can use a kick to deliver the attack of opportunity.

Looking at your original post, I'm wondering if your concern is with whether a particular weapon is "ready" or not. In 3.5 there's no conception of "readiness" of weapons (shields, yes, but weapons, no). If a weapon is in hand and there are enough free hands to wield it (and is loaded, if that is required), it can be used.

If there's a problem with the original poster's description of the monk's attack actions, its that the monk didn't seem to take the move action required to reload the sling if they used the sling twice in a row.