Vampire in play
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GMforPowergamers
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why a genesi with the elan feat may be enough...
Saracenus
Always In School Gamer
D&D Encounters (DDE) Vampire play experience, week 2.
Welp, I learned how resilient my human vampire is.
Party:
All are first level:
Female Human Red Scales Executioner
Male Shade Gloom Pact Binder
Female Human Blackguard of Fury
Male Gnome Wizard
Human Vampire (me)
Yeah, I know, no leader or defender... its gonna go well or really bad. It went bad...
Opposition:
2 spider swarms
1 deathjump spider
3 shadow thing minions
Both our controllers didn't have reliable area attacks. Yay!
So, I got hung up fighting one of the swarms. I blew my daily in an attempt to put it down... I missed. I was able to hit the damn thing consistantly with my Taste of Life ability keeping 5 temp hp up for most of the combat (a very good thing) plus my regen was running the whole time during the combat. I look over 50 hp in damage over 7 rounds of combat and only dropped in the last round.
The blackguard was down for about half the combat but managed to spontaneously heal with a 20 on death save.
The shade binder blew 3 death saves (the assassin tried to stabilize him and failed).
Obviously had we had a leader this would have gone differently but my vampire was able to survive for a long time without help from one. Cool.
Welp, I learned how resilient my human vampire is.
Party:
All are first level:
Female Human Red Scales Executioner
Male Shade Gloom Pact Binder
Female Human Blackguard of Fury
Male Gnome Wizard
Human Vampire (me)
Yeah, I know, no leader or defender... its gonna go well or really bad. It went bad...
Opposition:
2 spider swarms
1 deathjump spider
3 shadow thing minions
Both our controllers didn't have reliable area attacks. Yay!
So, I got hung up fighting one of the swarms. I blew my daily in an attempt to put it down... I missed. I was able to hit the damn thing consistantly with my Taste of Life ability keeping 5 temp hp up for most of the combat (a very good thing) plus my regen was running the whole time during the combat. I look over 50 hp in damage over 7 rounds of combat and only dropped in the last round.
The blackguard was down for about half the combat but managed to spontaneously heal with a 20 on death save.
The shade binder blew 3 death saves (the assassin tried to stabilize him and failed).
Obviously had we had a leader this would have gone differently but my vampire was able to survive for a long time without help from one. Cool.
Incenjucar
Legend
Could you spoiler those? Most people in America won't be doing Encounters for another 12 hours or so.
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Sorta surprised how long the encounter took. The default average is around 4 rounds.
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Sorta surprised how long the encounter took. The default average is around 4 rounds.
Are these prebuilt characters? What wizard doesn't have an AoE power? I find that madness. MADNESS.
Also technically even without a leader, a party of three strikers shouldn't have struggled that much (well 2 and a 1/2 strikers
). The binder probably wasn't very useful - actually the binder is the textbook definition of useless and a proper warlock/hexblade or replacing him for a leader would have made that encounter much easier.
It doesn't really look that hard either on paper from what I can see. Could you elaborate more on it (in a spoiler please)? I can't believe that managed to TPK you.
Edit: I must admit, what makes me really laugh is a shade binder in an encounter with tremorsensing enemies. Now that is rubbing salt into a deep wound if ever I've seen it.
Also technically even without a leader, a party of three strikers shouldn't have struggled that much (well 2 and a 1/2 strikers
). The binder probably wasn't very useful - actually the binder is the textbook definition of useless and a proper warlock/hexblade or replacing him for a leader would have made that encounter much easier.It doesn't really look that hard either on paper from what I can see. Could you elaborate more on it (in a spoiler please)? I can't believe that managed to TPK you.
Edit: I must admit, what makes me really laugh is a shade binder in an encounter with tremorsensing enemies. Now that is rubbing salt into a deep wound if ever I've seen it.
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Saracenus
Always In School Gamer
Are these prebuilt characters? What wizard doesn't have an AoE power? I find that madness. MADNESS.
Also technically even without a leader, a party of three strikers shouldn't have struggled that much (well 2 and a 1/2 strikers
It doesn't really look that hard either on paper from what I can see. Could you elaborate more on it (in a spoiler please)? I can't believe that managed to TPK you.
Wasn't a TPK. We only lost the Shade Binder. The rest of us survived.
All PCs were built by the players... no pregens.
Problem was we split our forces on the map, there were two bridges over water. First big mistake.
The mage had mostly enchantment powers and the only blast or bust was an encounter power, he missed both targets with it. Remember my big daily got wasted on one swarm (and I missed it).
The death jump spider was jumping around the battlefield making our lives hell.
The blackguard getting knocked down and no way to revive her quickly. No one had healing trained and every roll we made to bring her back failed.
The swarms were the worst thing for us to face with our party. We just sucked. Remember we were basically an essentials only party. And we had really bad rolls.
I was just amazed at how much damage I took and was still up and fighting.
We made the best of a bad situation and I was amazed at the resilience of my vamp.
BTW, the wife doesn't like her blackguard and she is considering a Death Domain Warpriest instead.
My main complaint with essentials only games is the leader selection is very thin, you can only be a warpriest (cleric) or sentinel (druid).
On the flip side, the Sentinel of Spring Druid is a buttkicker...
Ah so it's not a TPK, I got the impression from your post that it was. Did the shade binder use his racial incidentally? Would have loved to seen his face when he wasted his turn to hide to discover the enemies all had tremorsense. Blackguards are actually quite impressive damage wise and losing the blackguard will be quite crippling (as it's one of the only characters in your party that can deal really good damage). The binder should consider changing to a warpriest or the sentinel. It will even the party out more.
I cannot believe the wizard has no at-wills that are area attacks. That astounds me. What at-wills does he have?
I cannot believe the wizard has no at-wills that are area attacks. That astounds me. What at-wills does he have?
Saracenus
Always In School Gamer
Didn't check the mage's character sheet but I was blow away that he didn't have an at-will burst or blast.
I am not sure what the binder player will bring next time.
He didn't use the racial because he was trying to damage things instead... besides it was the ongoing 5 poison (save ends) that dropped him into neg. He failed his saving throw twice. He should have popped a second wind, he should have not provoked the Opertunity Attack he did... he killed himself.
In our first encounter we were done in 2.5 rounds. That's the danger of a striker heavy party with controllers, they are very effective until things go way south. I think our initiatives (which were very low), split forces on the map, and lack of effective area attacks to deal with the swarms really hurt us. Add in our really crappy rolling and the DM rolling average to high, well we are lucky it wasn't a TPK.
I am not sure what the binder player will bring next time.
He didn't use the racial because he was trying to damage things instead... besides it was the ongoing 5 poison (save ends) that dropped him into neg. He failed his saving throw twice. He should have popped a second wind, he should have not provoked the Opertunity Attack he did... he killed himself.
In our first encounter we were done in 2.5 rounds. That's the danger of a striker heavy party with controllers, they are very effective until things go way south. I think our initiatives (which were very low), split forces on the map, and lack of effective area attacks to deal with the swarms really hurt us. Add in our really crappy rolling and the DM rolling average to high, well we are lucky it wasn't a TPK.
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