{Vampire: The Masquerade - OOC} New York by Night
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Ashrem Bayle
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KitanaVorr said:
Good lord... 5 successes.
You have about as much chance as a "all you can eat" buffet it a fat farm.
Just kidding.
Remember all, this is the weekend coming up so you aren't likely to get another good update until Monday. I'm sure I'll check in some, but don't expect much after today.
KitanaVorr
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Ashrem Bayle said:
Good lord... 5 successes.
You have about as much chance as a "all you can eat" buffet it a fat farm.
Just kidding.
Remember all, this is the weekend coming up so you aren't likely to get another good update until Monday. I'm sure I'll check in some, but don't expect much after today.
Hey while you're here could you explain for me why you did different number of rolls for each thing? And how you do them?
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ok ok "kit you pick up the dice and then throw it and a number will be on top" hehe its bad when you think of a smart aleck reply to your own comments...
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Ashrem Bayle
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hehe
Its kinda like D20 a little. You add your dots in one attribute to your dots in an asscociated ability if there is one. Take the total and that equels your dice pool. I then set a difficulty (same as DC in d20). The default difficulty for most actions is 6. So you then roll all the dice in your pool and count however many go over 6. This is your number of successes.
Usually:
1 success means you barely accomplished what you attempted.
2 means you did it well
3 means you did it better than expected
4 means you did it really, really well. Much better than you needed to.
5 is simply astounding. you did it as well as it can be done.
etc.
etc.
Example:
I needed to see how well your performance is going.
You have 5 dots in performance and I decided to use Charisma (4 dots) since I figure that shows better on stage than simple Appearance.
So.. 5+4 = 9 dice in your pool. That is a lot! I rolled against the default difficulty of 6 and you got 4 successes. It is an awesome performance by anyone's standards.
Your Appearance check was really remarkable. You had five dice in your pool and got 5 successes against a difficulty of 6. You are now a lightning rod of attention.
That make sense?
Its kinda like D20 a little. You add your dots in one attribute to your dots in an asscociated ability if there is one. Take the total and that equels your dice pool. I then set a difficulty (same as DC in d20). The default difficulty for most actions is 6. So you then roll all the dice in your pool and count however many go over 6. This is your number of successes.
Usually:
1 success means you barely accomplished what you attempted.
2 means you did it well
3 means you did it better than expected
4 means you did it really, really well. Much better than you needed to.
5 is simply astounding. you did it as well as it can be done.
etc.
etc.
Example:
I needed to see how well your performance is going.
You have 5 dots in performance and I decided to use Charisma (4 dots) since I figure that shows better on stage than simple Appearance.
So.. 5+4 = 9 dice in your pool. That is a lot! I rolled against the default difficulty of 6 and you got 4 successes. It is an awesome performance by anyone's standards.
Your Appearance check was really remarkable. You had five dice in your pool and got 5 successes against a difficulty of 6. You are now a lightning rod of attention.
That make sense?
KitanaVorr
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Ohmigod...the innuendos I could do from that...but yep! I get it now =) yay more knowledge for me...now where to put it in my overstuffed brain, I dunno!
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ahh my mommy always taught me to be polite but I never remember.
Thank you ash!
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reapersaurus
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finally got Nik's actions up.
I'm guessing this PbP will be a bit more player-controlled than other one's I've been in.
Is that right, Ash?
You're running it where we kind of control the action a bit, and the story being more collaborative, instead of the DM running everything except our PC's actions?
If so, please stop me if I do anything or guess something that doesn't match your idea of the Chronicle.
I apologize in advance if I guess something wrong - I've never run an interactive-story game, where the players have a say in the world.
As you noticed, I had Nikolai's Sire not there - it didn't make sense that he'd be in NY- Nik was the one that volunteered to go to the Big Apple, with all the uproar and change going on there.
He checked in with Aislin and would be staying at the Chantry, right?
So he's pretty much on his own here, other than the not-insignificant relations with his Clan.
Also, I think i remembered you mentioning something about no Disciplines being used at Elysium?
I looked it up, and there's no VIOLENCE at Elysium.
Vamps use Disciplines all the time - it would be like telling a wolf to "turn off" its sense of smell.
edit: If you didn't mention that about Disciplines, than ignore the above.
edit #2 : Damn, you posted in-character before reading this post, apparently.
Now it's kind of hard to change what Qadir said...
I'm guessing this PbP will be a bit more player-controlled than other one's I've been in.
Is that right, Ash?
You're running it where we kind of control the action a bit, and the story being more collaborative, instead of the DM running everything except our PC's actions?
If so, please stop me if I do anything or guess something that doesn't match your idea of the Chronicle.
I apologize in advance if I guess something wrong - I've never run an interactive-story game, where the players have a say in the world.
As you noticed, I had Nikolai's Sire not there - it didn't make sense that he'd be in NY- Nik was the one that volunteered to go to the Big Apple, with all the uproar and change going on there.
He checked in with Aislin and would be staying at the Chantry, right?
So he's pretty much on his own here, other than the not-insignificant relations with his Clan.
Also, I think i remembered you mentioning something about no Disciplines being used at Elysium?
I looked it up, and there's no VIOLENCE at Elysium.
Vamps use Disciplines all the time - it would be like telling a wolf to "turn off" its sense of smell.
edit: If you didn't mention that about Disciplines, than ignore the above.
edit #2 : Damn, you posted in-character before reading this post, apparently.
Now it's kind of hard to change what Qadir said...
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reapersaurus
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I'm going to do as my nature pushes me to, and rabble things up a bit by asking questions of other players about their characters, to help me (and hopefully others) better understand the game we're spending our free time on.
Kitana - I'm kind of confused about your character currently.
(All of this is IMO, and take the observations or ignore tham at your leaisure)
You are playing her as 2 sides of a very disparate coin: the wide-eyed, good-hearted struggling artist who wants to prove to her parents that her artistic talents are good and she can make her way in the world on talent alone.
This is opposed by her posh, priveledged background, with snobbish influences, her ability to handle medical schoool, land a scholarship, and her incredibly high stats.
The confusion I'm having is how the heck can someone with everything going for her (money, priveledge, beauty, absurd talent for a human (one in several million)) would be a struggling artist who is not sure of her abilities, and hasn't been already found by the record companies and made their next polished, produced star?
If she could overwhelm a roomful of the most powerful vampires in all of New York, I'm fairly confident she would have a record contract and be selling CD's and merchandise by the truckload.
That's basically what I've been struggling with as a reader, is making sense of Caitlyn's situation.
I know that if _I_ had that much going for me in life, I'd hunt down and kill any damned bloodsucker that wanted to take that human life away from me.
Humans that have everything they want usually wouldn't be willing to give it away with the Embrace.
Hope these observations help and might nail down some aspects of your character for us -
lastly, i don't get the "soft punk rock" music.
That is a sonic impossibility. LOL
If I was imagining what Caitlyn's genre was, it would be a torch-song, throw-back type of music with contemporary sound, somewhat like what you used: Garbage's "#1 Crush" (great song, BTW, and I dig you going to that extra effort to use the words).
Punk rock, hard rock, and metal would not be able to take advantage of the singing talent of Caitlyn as well as other genres : there's a reason why with "good singers", they play ballads and softer music. Both volume, and the number of beats and notes in faster music tends to get in the way of the singing voice.
edit: you could have Kindred Knights be a bunch of humans playing torchy, gothy "Vampire music", as I've heard many contemprary bands do.
Maybe a female version of Type O Negative?
Kitana - I'm kind of confused about your character currently.
(All of this is IMO, and take the observations or ignore tham at your leaisure)
You are playing her as 2 sides of a very disparate coin: the wide-eyed, good-hearted struggling artist who wants to prove to her parents that her artistic talents are good and she can make her way in the world on talent alone.
This is opposed by her posh, priveledged background, with snobbish influences, her ability to handle medical schoool, land a scholarship, and her incredibly high stats.
The confusion I'm having is how the heck can someone with everything going for her (money, priveledge, beauty, absurd talent for a human (one in several million)) would be a struggling artist who is not sure of her abilities, and hasn't been already found by the record companies and made their next polished, produced star?
If she could overwhelm a roomful of the most powerful vampires in all of New York, I'm fairly confident she would have a record contract and be selling CD's and merchandise by the truckload.
That's basically what I've been struggling with as a reader, is making sense of Caitlyn's situation.
I know that if _I_ had that much going for me in life, I'd hunt down and kill any damned bloodsucker that wanted to take that human life away from me.
Humans that have everything they want usually wouldn't be willing to give it away with the Embrace.
Hope these observations help and might nail down some aspects of your character for us -
lastly, i don't get the "soft punk rock" music.
That is a sonic impossibility. LOL
If I was imagining what Caitlyn's genre was, it would be a torch-song, throw-back type of music with contemporary sound, somewhat like what you used: Garbage's "#1 Crush" (great song, BTW, and I dig you going to that extra effort to use the words).
Punk rock, hard rock, and metal would not be able to take advantage of the singing talent of Caitlyn as well as other genres : there's a reason why with "good singers", they play ballads and softer music. Both volume, and the number of beats and notes in faster music tends to get in the way of the singing voice.
edit: you could have Kindred Knights be a bunch of humans playing torchy, gothy "Vampire music", as I've heard many contemprary bands do.
Maybe a female version of Type O Negative?
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Ashrem Bayle
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The storyteller's guide (or Guilded Cage, not sure which) goes into detail about how Kindred react to the use of disciplines.
One of the things it mentions specificly is the use of disciplines in Elysium. Even sensory ones like auspex. It says that even the use of aura perception requires the vampire to concentrate on his target and other vampire's who understand about auspex are always on the lookout for vampires who stare to hard.
Thats fine though. Nikolai wouldn't necessarily know that and is in character for a newly embraced kindred.
Qadir is specificly looking for any use of disciplines.
Elysium is supposed to be a safe haven for all vampires. It is the one place they are supposed to be able to let down their guard and mingle with their own kind. Auspex is considered an invasion of privacy and your not supposed to have to worry about such things in Elysium. Of course, in reality, you do whatever you want as long as you don't get cought.
For instance, if anyone knew you had used that rituel before attending, it would be frowned upon. However, there is no way for anyone to know, so it is cool.
Using disciplines on another vampire, especially dominate and presence is considered VERY bad form. Of course, beating someone into a bloody mush with Potance isn't very nice either.
One of the things it mentions specificly is the use of disciplines in Elysium. Even sensory ones like auspex. It says that even the use of aura perception requires the vampire to concentrate on his target and other vampire's who understand about auspex are always on the lookout for vampires who stare to hard.
Thats fine though. Nikolai wouldn't necessarily know that and is in character for a newly embraced kindred.
Qadir is specificly looking for any use of disciplines.
Elysium is supposed to be a safe haven for all vampires. It is the one place they are supposed to be able to let down their guard and mingle with their own kind. Auspex is considered an invasion of privacy and your not supposed to have to worry about such things in Elysium. Of course, in reality, you do whatever you want as long as you don't get cought.
For instance, if anyone knew you had used that rituel before attending, it would be frowned upon. However, there is no way for anyone to know, so it is cool.
Using disciplines on another vampire, especially dominate and presence is considered VERY bad form. Of course, beating someone into a bloody mush with Potance isn't very nice either.
Ashrem Bayle
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I'm thinking that because Cate has had everything handed to her, she doesn't trust her own skills. She is VERY good, but she doesn't think so herself.
Why hasn't she been "discovered"?
Could be any number of reasons. Perhaps her band is holding her back. Maybe she is carrying them, and isn't willing to break up the band to go at it on her own.
She has immense talent by herself, but her band isn't all that great and is holding her down.
*shrug* Just a thought.
I was thinking of Type O Negative myself.
And yes Reaper, you where right about how I plan to run this. You guys are going to drive the game. I have only a few very vague ideas for anything that even resembles a plot.
I am mainly just here to roll dice and play the NPCs.
Why hasn't she been "discovered"?
Could be any number of reasons. Perhaps her band is holding her back. Maybe she is carrying them, and isn't willing to break up the band to go at it on her own.
She has immense talent by herself, but her band isn't all that great and is holding her down.
*shrug* Just a thought.
I was thinking of Type O Negative myself.
And yes Reaper, you where right about how I plan to run this. You guys are going to drive the game. I have only a few very vague ideas for anything that even resembles a plot.
I am mainly just here to roll dice and play the NPCs.
reapersaurus
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you sure that Storytelling suggestion wan't an alternate, non-typical source?
Cause it doesn't get at those themes you mentioned in the books I've seen.
It certainly could be run that way, but it doesn't make sense to me, as a story.
Not because my character happens to use Auspex, but as a group of individuals, each with different Talents, it seems strange that they would go so far as to deny the innate use of their Embraced powers.
No violence makes sense - that just wouldn't do.
But I always assumed that vampires use their Caine-given powers constantly to manipulate and influence other vampires (like the lower Presence power).
When WOULD vampiric powers be OK to use?
Is it just Elysium that gets this restriction, or is all vampire society based on not using vampire powers, because of 'rudeness', or impropriety perhaps?
I'll respond to Qadir - let me know if it's OK to assume that Nik would have already known about Qadir's diablerie (he's been out with him in the past).
Cause it doesn't get at those themes you mentioned in the books I've seen.
It certainly could be run that way, but it doesn't make sense to me, as a story.
Not because my character happens to use Auspex, but as a group of individuals, each with different Talents, it seems strange that they would go so far as to deny the innate use of their Embraced powers.
No violence makes sense - that just wouldn't do.
But I always assumed that vampires use their Caine-given powers constantly to manipulate and influence other vampires (like the lower Presence power).
When WOULD vampiric powers be OK to use?
Is it just Elysium that gets this restriction, or is all vampire society based on not using vampire powers, because of 'rudeness', or impropriety perhaps?
I'll respond to Qadir - let me know if it's OK to assume that Nik would have already known about Qadir's diablerie (he's been out with him in the past).
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