Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
A pity. I am glad that my cousing graduated last year from V-Tech though.
Very, very sad university news
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Nazhkandrias
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This is simply tragic. I am a high school student, and I have been the target of random violence before, and let me tell you, it's scary. Not just when it happens, but after that, too. Your sense of security disappears entirely, and you're never really the same again. This tragic event will never really go away, no matter how much we want it to. I am not a religious person, so I do not pray, but my every thought is with the victims of this tragedy. For those of you who do pray, please, give your every prayer to the victims and those close to the victims of this tragedy.
I can only hope that families are reunited, and that something like this never, EVER happens again.
I can only hope that families are reunited, and that something like this never, EVER happens again.
Thaumaturge
Wandering. Not lost. (He/they)
They are saying now there were two distinct shooting incidents. One where two people were killed and the larger one where they are saying 31 died. They aren't saying if both were done by the same or different gunman.
My prayers are also with all involved.
My prayers are also with all involved.
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Unreal. Hope no EN Worlders were involved.
Kind of makes my current crisis -- basement flooding due to the Nor'easter -- insignificant in comparison.
Kind of makes my current crisis -- basement flooding due to the Nor'easter -- insignificant in comparison.
Sidekick
First Post
Wow, I read about this on the BBC website this morning, very very sad indeed. 33 peopl if I remember correctly.
Sweet Jesus that's one very very very angry person.
It's also disturbing to see that the whole school shooting phenomenon has moved to universities -although historically I suppose it came from them first.
Also as odd as this may sound, I dread to think what US uni's will do in reaction to this - using situational crime prevention in a uni to stop weapons entering would be a very very very hard thing to do.
Umm, I'm not a religous man so I guess my condolences to anyone reading this who was or knows someone affected by it.
And Chimera - that's a very uninspiring, but all to believeable story.
Sweet Jesus that's one very very very angry person.
It's also disturbing to see that the whole school shooting phenomenon has moved to universities -although historically I suppose it came from them first.
Also as odd as this may sound, I dread to think what US uni's will do in reaction to this - using situational crime prevention in a uni to stop weapons entering would be a very very very hard thing to do.
Umm, I'm not a religous man so I guess my condolences to anyone reading this who was or knows someone affected by it.
And Chimera - that's a very uninspiring, but all to believeable story.
HeavenShallBurn
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This is a sad day and many people died.
It doesn't matter what the talking heads say, whether it's a suicide bomber or a shooter if someone wants to kill and is willing to die nothing can prevent it they will find a way.
The response of the police on the scene was inexcusable. They simply jumped to an unsupported conclusion and completely missed blatant common-sensical actions that could have at least moderated the losses. A swarm of police congregated on the dorm and began the "usual suspects" procedure when they should have secured the immediate scene then swept for suspicious activity on campus given that they had an unknown hostile loose and his last known position was the campus. The university administration like bureacracy everywhere proved itself unsuited to taking swift and effective action, it dropped the ball inexcusably.
Unfortunately I expect the response to be far worse than the actual incident. In the aftermath of Columbine it created a paranoia among schools and police that resulted in rampant harassment of anyone who didn't fit in. Profiling based on nothing more than half-baked quack-psychology, stereotyping, and in-group discrimination hurt a lot of people. I expect that to repeat to an extent, hopefully not as much but I won't hold much hope of that. Too many people respond irrationally to the sort of incident that is highly rare and allow it to alter an entire realm of society.
It doesn't matter what the talking heads say, whether it's a suicide bomber or a shooter if someone wants to kill and is willing to die nothing can prevent it they will find a way.
The response of the police on the scene was inexcusable. They simply jumped to an unsupported conclusion and completely missed blatant common-sensical actions that could have at least moderated the losses. A swarm of police congregated on the dorm and began the "usual suspects" procedure when they should have secured the immediate scene then swept for suspicious activity on campus given that they had an unknown hostile loose and his last known position was the campus. The university administration like bureacracy everywhere proved itself unsuited to taking swift and effective action, it dropped the ball inexcusably.
Unfortunately I expect the response to be far worse than the actual incident. In the aftermath of Columbine it created a paranoia among schools and police that resulted in rampant harassment of anyone who didn't fit in. Profiling based on nothing more than half-baked quack-psychology, stereotyping, and in-group discrimination hurt a lot of people. I expect that to repeat to an extent, hopefully not as much but I won't hold much hope of that. Too many people respond irrationally to the sort of incident that is highly rare and allow it to alter an entire realm of society.
Kurashu
First Post
This made me sick to my stomach when I first heard about it, not that ill feeling but that "Oh. This awful." This is a horrible incident. It worries me that there are people like this in the world. And that I might be interacting with them everyday, possibly pushing them along the path sometimes, and not even knowing.
Not be cynical, make light of this event, or miss the tragedy, but this is only going to be a matter of time before this turns into a witchhunt of the usual suspects: video games, music, television, movies, and of course our favorite, Table Top RPGs. The backlash is going to be awful, even though none of these will have (hopefully) played a major part in any of this.
I can hardly wait. I've already been accused of wanting to shoot up my school once because of my musical preferences.
I will say that I'm glad this wasn't ignored because some celebrity shaved her head or was making politically incorrect statements. Too often news gets ignored for gossip and tabloids even on major news networks; although, it's sad that it's all too often something horrendous is what's needed to give news networks something real to discuss.
Not be cynical, make light of this event, or miss the tragedy, but this is only going to be a matter of time before this turns into a witchhunt of the usual suspects: video games, music, television, movies, and of course our favorite, Table Top RPGs. The backlash is going to be awful, even though none of these will have (hopefully) played a major part in any of this.
I can hardly wait. I've already been accused of wanting to shoot up my school once because of my musical preferences.
I will say that I'm glad this wasn't ignored because some celebrity shaved her head or was making politically incorrect statements. Too often news gets ignored for gossip and tabloids even on major news networks; although, it's sad that it's all too often something horrendous is what's needed to give news networks something real to discuss.
Yeah- UT (where I got my JD) was among the first major school shootings in history- the 1966 Charles Whitman sniper shootings...
A buddy of mine was among the many people called in to administer mental therapy to the kids at Columbine (whose anniversary is the 20th of this month)- he was getting his Masters in Psych at the time- and he's always introverted around this time of year. I haven't been able to reach him...I'm hoping he's either on his way to help (he's a PsiD now) or not depressed further by this incident.
I don't know if I can fault the police- its a sizable and fairly open campus and according so some of the reports I've seen, they had some reason to believe that the situation was a "domestic dispute" between a BF & GF- a kind of incident that rarely explodes beyond the argument's principles and the immediate responders.
Yes, a "domestic dispute" apparently touched-off the Charles Whitman shooting in 1966, but cases like that are the rare, rare exception, and even in his case, there were a horde of other factors.
GlassJaw
Hero
Kurashu said:
The "matter of time" was 8 hours:
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/04/from_virginia_t.html
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