Vital Strike Questions

[Umbran]

Do you suffer from selective reading disorder?

Pause for a moment.

Remember that Rule #1 of EN World is "Keep it civil". Remember that you are expected to treat folks with respect at all times, even if you don't like what they say or do.

Now continue your conversation as if that were in the forefront of your mind.

Thanks.

 

[Starbuck_II]

Wait, James is saying both things means he thinks they should be able to combine, but he adknowledges that by RAW they don't.

If he really thinks they should why not ask the other designers if they could errata it? I mean, they are his co-workers. They might have reason whjy they haven't errated it.

 

[frankthedm]

Considering he's one of the writers OF the rules...

He should own up to his mistake of letting Sharx Veskandi use the ability in that manner, rather than changing his ruling of the ability. But that is a moot point since they 'fixed' ^{snip snip} Spring attack so it does not work with VS.

Q: Can one combine the Spring Attack feat with Vital Strike?
A: (Errata 8/20/10) The spring attack feat has been changed in the 8/20/2010 Errata to be a Full-Round action. This prevents one from using Spring Attack and vital strike together. This also includes any of the Standard action feats like Cleave also.

 

[Remathilis]

He should own up to his mistake of letting Sharx Veskandi use the ability in that manner, rather than changing his ruling of the ability. But that is a moot point since they 'fixed' ^{snip snip} Spring attack so it does not work with VS.

Q: Can one combine the Spring Attack feat with Vital Strike?
A: (Errata 8/20/10) The spring attack feat has been changed in the 8/20/2010 Errata to be a Full-Round action. This prevents one from using Spring Attack and vital strike together. This also includes any of the Standard action feats like Cleave also.

Never did get to use my SA+VS cheese, but its good to know they settled on a final reading of it.

 

[frankthedm]

Never did get to use my SA+VS cheese, but its good to know they settled on a final reading of it.

Care to describe it? I am curious what kind of combos they felt it was needed to counteract.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Having an alternative to full attacking that doesn't completely suck?

 

[Remathilis]

Care to describe it? I am curious what kind of combos they felt it was needed to counteract.

My goal was to reconstruct my 20th level rogue in PF so that he could.

1.) Stand 15 feet away from his fighter buddy engaging a foe.
2.) Dart into a flank, attack once dealing 1d6 (rapier) +2d6 (imp VS) +10d6 (sneak attack) +10 bleed (bleeding atk) damage (+ strength and magic modifiers).
3.) Dart out 15 feet to avoid reach and AoO.
4.) Lather, rinse, repeat.

Granted, its only 2d6 lost. Still, I was looking forward to 13d6 damage per round. It was a fair trade for those secondary attacks I had that never hit by virtue of my miserable 3/4ths attack bonus.